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Post by ejparrott on Jan 5, 2015 12:00:20 GMT
Very long saga, but my 2.5" Annie has finally come home. The painting hasn't been done, so she's still in bits currently. I only got back from Christmas hols last night so I've not had chance to sort it out, but I'll get everything out and sort some photo's.
Meanwhile, did LBSC document her at all? As it was father that stripped her 20 years ago and it's me that'll be putting her back together, going to need a bit of help me thinks! Most bits are labelled and I know how thinks work, so it shouldn't be too bad, but even so!
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Post by alanstepney on Jan 5, 2015 13:24:53 GMT
It was described in Model Engineer sometime during 1933.
He said that it was so simple that "Any body" could build it, and hence the name.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 15:16:56 GMT
That's good news Ed  Ready for Rugby this June? Yes, as Alan says, LBSC did a complete write up for the loco in ME . John |
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 5, 2015 18:33:44 GMT
Haha..don't know about that John! too cold for painting at this time of year so we'll have to wait for the weather to warm up before we even contemplate it. There's a few steel bits need to go for blasting and priming which can be done, but the rest will wait.
1933...right...time to try and track down the articles then...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 20:58:36 GMT
Volumes 69 to 71
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 5, 2015 21:16:36 GMT
Thanks, I know I haven't got them, they might be in the club library
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Post by mbrown on Jan 5, 2015 21:32:05 GMT
Hi Ed,
I have the articles. I can do you a set of photocopies if you'd like. By modern standards, the write up and drawings are pretty sketchy - Curley showed versions with slip eccentrics, Stephenson's and Walshaert's valve gears. I actually started an Annie Boddie myself back in the early '70s when I was in my teens, having acquired a set of machined driving wheels and thinking I could mate it with a set of Southern Maid cylinders and a Southern Maid boiler that I had also been given. I got as far as the frames, buffer beams and bogie. The fact that the bits all ended up in a freelance 4-6-0 with outside Hackworth valve gear is another story.
Malcolm B
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 5, 2015 23:32:40 GMT
Thanks Malcolm, I'll have a look in the club library and see if we've got them....I have a feeling we don't go that far back
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 10, 2015 15:56:19 GMT
Weather written off all the outside job's so I've had a go through the bits I brought back with me, turns out a bit more has been done than previously thought. The history as I remember it - She dates from the 1930/40's era, built by my Great-Grandfather (I think). We're pretty certain the engine was built before the war and the tender after. We do know the boiler is a genuine Derby boiler, built in the railway boiler shop! She was run many many times over the years, being a regular at Chesterfield at one time....until that is some members there took exception to my Mother driving, at which point Grandfather told them what he thought of them and never went back....anyone who remembers my mother will know she can handle a steam engine and was one time footplate volunteer on the Talyllyn! Eventually she was willed to mother and her Uncle, and around about 1992 ish...certainly post completion of Lilla..she came down to father to get back into service. The boiler had some work done and was recertified, some considerable amount of lead was added to the back end, including filling the bottom of the ashpan, and she was made into a good little engine again. IIRC she was entered for one of the Curly Bowl events aswell, but I don't recall if she ever went to a 2.5" society event....I've an idea we went to Cheltenham, but we went there with OLCO and the Lion, so it might be I'm confusing the two. It was because we had her, and because we were members even back then, that Rugby had the 2.5" rail built in when the new track was built at the current site, after we were evicted from our old location. We campaigned for it, presented the case for it, and today the 2.5" society thoroughly enjoy themselves every year! Sadly, although Annie has run up and down the track as it was being built, she's yet to run a full circuit, the track not being finished until years later. Anyway. Once back in service, father stripped her down and she went back to G.Uncle...he was working for Carbolite Furnaces at the time, as a spray painter, and with father being busy working on Peter Sam in 5", it made sense at the time. I think that would have been in 1995....it was certainly no later than 96 as that was the year father died. The last I had heard was the G.Uncle had got the tender in primer and that was all - he's never been very quick at doing things! As it turns out, there's actually more than that been done. All the tender bits and the majority of the engine's loose bits have been stripped, and some has been painted up, here is what I brought home... (The cab is not attached, I just put it there while trying to identify all the bits and where they all go)       I'll get mother to write down everything she remembers about her some time, as much for my own benefit as anyone else...including what was said when she threatened to have the portable track laid up the church drive on her wedding day...!! The weather is against me now for getting the painting done really. There's some bits that will have to be brush painted which I'm dreading....I might get some of those done in the house over the next few months..the boiler though I'll spray, and maybe the tender body, so that'll have to wait for warmer weather. Before I paint it I'll get the boiler re tested and onto the new system, it's loose and out of the frames so now's a good a time as any. There's some lining out that's going to be fun too...I might get a Beugler afterall. The livery is going to be LMS crimson lake...the best there is....She's been done up as a Compound and that's the way she's staying. I think she carried the number 1209 on her cabside and she'll be having it again...it's not a Compound number I don't think, but it relates to G.Grandfather's wedding day or something. I've found out a few photo's from when she was being rebuilt but it's not easy to see. Some work with a magnifying glass or a scanner may help, if mother doesn't remember it of course. Watch this space! I know John wants to know - one way or another she'll be at Rainsbrook in the summer, just don't count on her being in steam! |
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 11, 2015 9:36:15 GMT
Had a look through my livery books last night, got the details for late 1930's Crimson Lake now.
There's some paint in the box from Pheonix Precision but they don't do transfers in 2.5" Gauge. Fox trasnfers however do, they've got the 14" LMS letters in stock in the right shade so I think I'll concentrate on getting the tender finsihed off, and do any of the bits of the engine that are in the same colour while I've got it out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 14:52:27 GMT
that looks very nice Edd...I like the crimson lake livery....looking forward to seeing her when completed..
Pete
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 11, 2015 16:36:05 GMT
Well, it'll all be on here Pete!
Had a look in the club library this morning and the ME's only go back to late 1949. We did discuss having a clearout off the early stuff some time ago because we'd run out of space, and we felt that since no-one had asked for the early stuff in sooo long, and the newer stuff was probably more appropriate. I don't know if we ever actually did though. General consensus was that we never went back to the early thirties anyway.
Malcolm, I've dropped you a PM, if you could get us some copies that'd be great, be able to see what it was that G.Grandfather was working too!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 20:07:05 GMT
Hi Ed, Look forward to seeing it in steam whenever it is. I didn't really expect you to have it ready for June  It's nice to know the history behind these old locos. So much of that gets lost over the years. I've driven the AB belonging to the late Tony Durnford quite a lot and that went well although very light footed. That extra lead will help! That must have been built about the same time and had a rivetted and caulked boiler which was still perfectly ok. That loco passed to another member of the n25ga on Tony's death but unfortunately the new owner also passed on last year so I don't know where it will end up now. It was in the process of being completely rebuilt. I just hope it doesn't disappear altogether. I got quite attached to it as I did a lot of work on it over the years.  John |
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Post by gingerneer on Jan 11, 2015 21:18:09 GMT
Good to see her on the way to steaming again. I have no idea of the history's behind Ayesha or the part built Southern Maid my brother in law gave me for this Christmas (he found it dumped in a skip!). 2 1/2" gauge tracks are a bit thin on the ground along the south coast. There seems more support for this gauge in the North though.
Will
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 21:59:08 GMT
Good to see her on the way to steaming again. I have no idea of the history's behind Ayesha or the part built Southern Maid my brother in law gave me for this Christmas (he found it dumped in a skip!). 2 1/2" gauge tracks are a bit thin on the ground along the south coast. There seems more support for this gauge in the North though. Will Hi Will I wouldn't swear to it but I believe that we have a short 2.5/3.5 multi gauge ringed raised track separate to the main 3 1/2-5" multi raised track at North London SME, I can check if you've looking for such a track down south.. cheers Pete |
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Post by mbrown on Jan 12, 2015 21:54:36 GMT
I'm sure the Romney Marsh club track has 2.5" g - we had some great 2.5"g Assoc rallies there in the 1980s - George Barlow's back garden opened more or less straight onto the steaming bays!
Malcolm
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2015 13:12:21 GMT
Here's a list of the current clubs with 2½" gauge facilities:  We've lost a few over the years but there are others considering putting in the extra rail. John |
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Post by gingerneer on Jan 13, 2015 17:13:53 GMT
Thank you for the information on tracks.
Will
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Post by ejparrott on Jan 18, 2015 15:28:47 GMT
Its too cold to be working outside really, so I've been over to the Range and bought a 1/4" paint brush with quite long bristles and had a go at the first bit of LMS Crimson Lake on the outside of the Tender frames.....I would have sprayed the Lake normally, then the little intricate bits of black I would have done without too much worry....Because this is large expanses of colour, I'm terrified!!!  Thankfully, the rest of the bits that go in Lake I'll be able to spray...The top and inside of the Tender have been painted black already, but I'll be able to mask those off to do the outside, then I'll just touch in the lamp bracket in black after. Anyone any good at laying down 0.011" lining lines? That's going to be fun..... |
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Post by waggy on Jan 18, 2015 19:02:07 GMT
Evening all, Please add Stockport to Baggo's list of tracks, we have 1100 feet of 2.5", 3.5" and 5" raised track. We are aiming to hold a 2.5" rally September 20th this year, watch out for updates here or on - www.stockportsme.comWaggy. |
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