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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 15:06:02 GMT
Today I have started to strip my Warco 16B down so that I can machine some flats on the saddle to fit the Y axis DRO to as at the moment it is still rough cast on the side.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2019 17:01:34 GMT
Hi Orville
Is that the Warco WM16 mill?, if so talk to Machine DRO, they do a kit for the Chester 20V which I used for my Warco, the X and Y are exactly the same to both machines. Could be worth a call to save you stripping the mill down to see if they would sell the 'Y' axis bracket kit on it's own?
Cheers
Pete
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Post by Jim Scott on Mar 11, 2019 19:56:41 GMT
Whats the story behind the bridge removal Jim? Most of the ones of that vintage I took out were rotten, fit only for scrap. Was this one going to be reused? I was intrigued to see that the transporter was self propelled. The two bridges were removed and replaced with new on consecutive weekends - a pretty good trick requiring excellent organisation. Both went very well but inevitably there was a small overrun affecting the first Metro trains on the Monday mornings. The bridges were part of the original North Eastern Railway infrastructure and quite substantially constructed, but the seaside air even gets through red lead paint eventually. Scrapped for sure. Cost £2.5 million apparently... (presumably for both..!)
Jim S
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Post by steamer5 on Mar 12, 2019 3:49:45 GMT
Hi Guys & Girls, As requested heres some photos of yesterdays fun! Hope it works as I had to create a Flicker account, so first picture posting! Heres a trailer full of trains, far side NZR WW (dads), a friends EE3(?) Swiss electric, & My Nigel Gresley Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr Here Nigel Gresley......1st steam up in 13 years is under way! Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr A better shot of Dads WW...(this is a New Zealand Railways designed & built loco) Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr And a couple of other ... Almost new Springbok, as you can see still in testing mode flic.kr/p/2e2R6kwUntitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr A much modified Railmotor Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr The clubs Baldwin loco Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr Well it was a fun play day! After 13 years I could still remember enough to get started! Fill boiler thru blow down, close blow down valve once 1/2 glass, oh don't forget to fill the tender! you get the picture! Add kindling & light!... Remember to CLOSE ALL the valves that have been left open so they don't stick/lock shut....been there played that game!! (You all do this right back off your valves at the end of a running day......) When steam pressure rose to 30 psi, off with the sucker & on with the blower, add coal watch as pressure slowly increased. test hand pump, all good. Test injector...ah crap! try the other same result! No unexpected! Kept playing...figured the non returns were likely stuck, mean time pressure rose, safety's lifted on Q!! Gentle taps on the no returns & woo injector kicked in to lift....result! Other side a little more playing around & letting the pressure drop a bit & she was away too!! NOW FOR SOMETHING INTERESTING!...Well i thought so. I have silicon tubing between tender & loco & with either injector running I could see that there was a little stream of bubbles being sucked towards the injectors! The interesting bit...They didnt CARE!! I got a good grip on the tender & moved to forward & she lite up wheels a spinning...back to neutral.....hmm looks like the regulator which had been stiff & didn't quite feel right wasn't shutting off! Played around with the regulator freeing up but no shut off!! Ah well no boiler cert today & a job to do! So I let the fire burn down & dropped it! So here a picture or 2 of my grate...The original builder was down too, the loco was built 1972!! the grate is the original!!! Just for the record I've owned her since 1991 Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr & to show how it works..... Untitled by Kerrin Galvin, on Flickr Cheers Kerrin Edit, Just figured out what I did wrong to post he picture...hopefully its all good now!!
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Post by chrisb on Mar 12, 2019 9:16:18 GMT
After work today, I did a bit more prep for getting the Wren boiler ready for a hydraulic. Last time it was done the regulator was found not to hod so I set about stripping out the smokebox to get access to the steam pipes. Now that is done tomorrow evenings job is to make a couple of blanks up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 9:40:22 GMT
Hi Orville Is that the Warco WM16 mill?, if so talk to Machine DRO, they do a kit for the Chester 20V which I used for my Warco, the X and Y are exactly the same to both machines. Could be worth a call to save you stripping the mill down to see if they would sell the 'Y' axis bracket kit on it's own? Cheers Pete Hi Pete, My machine is the WM16B which is slightly different around the saddle and base area than the WM16 and the Chester 20V. If you look at the Warco site you will see that there is a rough cast area on the side of the saddle where I need to fix the Y axis slide, this is where I need to machine a couple of flats to ensure everything is true to the axis. (I'll message you later with a questionnaire regarding the differences between the machines. ) Regards Paul
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Post by nonort on Mar 12, 2019 11:22:10 GMT
Hi Orville Is that the Warco WM16 mill?, if so talk to Machine DRO, they do a kit for the Chester 20V which I used for my Warco, the X and Y are exactly the same to both machines. Could be worth a call to save you stripping the mill down to see if they would sell the 'Y' axis bracket kit on it's own? Cheers Pete Hi Pete, My machine is the WM16B which is slightly different around the saddle and base area than the WM16 and the Chester 20V. If you look at the Warco site you will see that there is a rough cast area on the side of the saddle where I need to fix the Y axis slide, this is where I need to machine a couple of flats to ensure everything is true to the axis. (I'll message you later with a questionnaire regarding the differences between the machines. ) Regards Paul Hi guys back in the days of oldie worldly. I once fitted a DRO to an ancient jig borer with Bostick Contact adhesive as bodge. You've guessed it was still there when I retired ten years later. The bracketry was stuck to the painted surfaces which had been prepared with carbon tet. HSE quiver!
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Post by RGR 60130 on Mar 12, 2019 15:53:54 GMT
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Post by simplyloco on Mar 12, 2019 17:31:20 GMT
Gratifying that it was the stationery engines that made most of the biggest gains! John
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Post by jon38r80 on Mar 12, 2019 21:13:25 GMT
Hi Pete, My machine is the WM16B which is slightly different around the saddle and base area than the WM16 and the Chester 20V. If you look at the Warco site you will see that there is a rough cast area on the side of the saddle where I need to fix the Y axis slide, this is where I need to machine a couple of flats to ensure everything is true to the axis. (I'll message you later with a questionnaire regarding the differences between the machines. ) Regards Paul I fitted the y scale to my WM16VS which although smoother than your 16B isnt flat or square. I watched a video on Utube that John Doubleboost put up of how he fitted a DRO to a similar machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFoohulfvD8) I used his method of four leveling screws on the bracket for the read head fixing to the base and fixed the scale to the saddle. Its not that hard ( access isnt easy without removing the table) but I was able to get it all true without having to machine the machine with another milling machine that I dont have! Might not suit you but it might save you some work.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 6:37:46 GMT
Hi Pete, My machine is the WM16B which is slightly different around the saddle and base area than the WM16 and the Chester 20V. If you look at the Warco site you will see that there is a rough cast area on the side of the saddle where I need to fix the Y axis slide, this is where I need to machine a couple of flats to ensure everything is true to the axis. (I'll message you later with a questionnaire regarding the differences between the machines. ) Regards Paul I fitted the y scale to my WM16VS which although smoother than your 16B isnt flat or square. I watched a video on Utube that John Doubleboost put up of how he fitted a DRO to a similar machine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFoohulfvD8) I used his method of four leveling screws on the bracket for the read head fixing to the base and fixed the scale to the saddle. Its not that hard ( access isnt easy without removing the table) but I was able to get it all true without having to machine the machine with another milling machine that I dont have! Might not suit you but it might save you some work.
Thanks for the link, interesting watch. One of the reasons for machining the side of the saddle is I might as well while I've got it stripped down. The machine is brand new so I was going to strip it anyway to give it a good clean and there is no better way to learn about a machine than taking it to bits and re-building it. One bit of advice I would give to people though is "wear gloves when removing the table and saddle!" the edges were very sharp and needed a file running around most edges.
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Post by simplyloco on Mar 14, 2019 0:13:10 GMT
Imagine my delight when my lovely Jan asked me if I'd like some covers for my workshop items. An overlocker had just been purchased and she had some left over sail maker's vinyl so I was the guinea pig! Here's the first 'Glass Case', and very nice it is too! John 20190313_150057 by inkaboat, on Flickr
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Post by steamer5 on Mar 14, 2019 1:48:59 GMT
Hi, just got home from Dads. Took off the dome, pulled the regulator, although I had got the regulator working better yesterday a little more time spent with a fine needle file took off another tiny burr or two & it seemed to work better! Then looking at the sealing taper I could see a score line we’re over it’s 46 - 47 years of use, so put the valve in the lathe & some worn 400 grade wet & dry & slowly the score mark disappeared! After putting the regulator back in, it is now smoother to use than it has ever been! It was always “gritty” when cold & improved when hot. Replaced the dome & pressured up on air. I could still here and feel air coming out the blast nozzle, a bit more of a tweak on the regulator handle & no more leak!! YES ! It’s likely to be better when thing are hot. Just a happy camper now, as the next step would of been pulling the smoke box & I wasn’t looking forward to that.
Cheers Kerrin
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Post by steamer5 on Mar 14, 2019 1:50:23 GMT
Hi John, Your good lady has made a nice job of that! You want to be careful as we will all want one!
Cheers Kerrin
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Post by delaplume on Mar 14, 2019 4:28:06 GMT
Hello everyone,
Have just returned from the Oswestry Club's AGM where I celebrated my first full year as their Treasurer.........That might not sound like much to some, and it's true over the last 40 odd years or so I've held the post of Treasurer and Secretary in a couple of other types of Club......
But this is the first time as a Treasurer for a Limited Company and also as a Director of that Company..........Our Secretary and I worked together and he managed to get the accounts audited by Companies House so we're OK for another year.....
Incidentally, at the end of the meeting, as the lads "Surged" forwards with their membership renewal monies in hand ----- guess who had forgotten to bring his cheque book then ??...DOH, or what ??
Anyway we go forwards for another year with plenty of work to do and a sound membership base..........
If you are in the area at any time our work day is Tuesday with Steam-up and Boiler Tests on the second Sunday of the month.......Bring an Engine ( any type ) and have a play !!
Alan
PS}--- We are in the middle of the Oswestry Showground with grass and arterial roads all around so you traction engine owners can come along and really "stretch your legs" if you like !!........likewise R/C cars etc...
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Post by smallbrother on Mar 14, 2019 18:44:13 GMT
Hi Alan,
I am surprised how many clubs still have people turning up once a year with cheques to pay their fees as the only system.
A few years ago I persuaded our Treasurer to accept monthly payments by Standing Order. I offered to be the "guinea pig" and added the sweetener of putting in more than was required. A number have followed suit. My logic goes that say a tenner a month is not much more painful that a one off fifty, but adds a fair bit into the coffers.
Pete.
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Post by delaplume on Mar 14, 2019 21:05:31 GMT
FF---FFF---FFFFFFF------Fifty !!!!!.....Jumpin jelly beans ...... Ours is £30 and even then we (the Committee ) get complaints......I can see some merits in that idea but having cash / cheques paid in at the start of the fiscal year gives the Club a decent lump sum to make use of........
For example}--- if a "monthly" payer decides to leave / die etc after say 4 months then the club funds will eventually be short by (8 months' x 1 person) worth of money come the end of the year...
Also, if the club has invested money early on in expectation of re-imbursement by that missing standing order, then the club funds have now been depleted by 8 months x 1 person's worth of Capital............ and multiples thereof.
It's swings and roundabouts really -------- Personally I'd prefer a Bank Direct Transfer....... I keep a look-out on a daily basis as to the health of our account...........It's how I operate my own finances these days....I no longer accept cheques for E-Bay "Cash-on-Collection" for example....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 23:13:25 GMT
£30 or £50? think mine is around £70?...I pay mine by monthly debit so not really sure...£70 sounds right...
Pete
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Post by delaplume on Mar 15, 2019 5:29:53 GMT
Strewth !!.......I suppose you get club value pro-rata to what you pay in subs ??..........By comparison Oswestry is fairly minimal with a decent track length for 3.5" and 5" but only a basic clubhouse with water with NO mains electricity and toilets which are in the main grandstand and accessed via a pass key and a 3 min. car ride !!! ( you need to get your "timing" right or else !!!! )..
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Post by JonL on Mar 15, 2019 6:39:14 GMT
Ours has just gone from £35 to £40. Based on how much help I've had from them, I think thats pretty reasonable.
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