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Post by jordanleeds on Nov 23, 2014 17:11:54 GMT
Sat this afternoon working the frames out and am going to take the plunge and have them cut without the hole for the valve gear in for now as I can pop them under the radial drill at work once I have an accurate dimension to work to for this.
Going to make a pattern for the smokebox saddle leaving the steam passages out these can be drilled in after
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Post by Midland on Nov 24, 2014 10:37:00 GMT
Since we are looking at old engines, have a look at these. Transparency0001 by brigandchief, on Flickr Transparency0000 by brigandchief, on Flickr Transparency0002 by brigandchief, on Flickr Saw these in 1978 on a visit to our Stoke Works and thought that if they are abandoned (which they were) what a great project for our apprentices to fix these up and run them around the yard on Sundays (with me driving of course). I think a developer got there first as next time I could do anything about it people were building on the site!! Like to have the 0-6-0T in 7 1/4". Cheers David
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Post by marshall5 on Nov 24, 2014 15:59:36 GMT
Hi David, that would be the Brookfield Foundry & Engineering Co site, formerly the Kerr Stuart loco works which closed in 1929. You'll be pleased to know that both these rare beasts were preserved. The 0-4-0ST Kerr Stuart 4388/1926 (ex Stoke gasworks IIRC) is at Foxfield and the 0-6-0PT (Bagnall 2613/1940) is restored and running at Mangapp's Farm as "Brookfield". This loco was designed to be metre gauge for use in the Turkish coalfields but was retained (and converted to standard gauge) due to the war. I was fortunate to see its 'sisters' at Catalgzi in the early 80's. Very interesting photos, thanks for posting them. Ray.
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Post by Midland on Nov 24, 2014 20:06:35 GMT
Ray Just looked them up as you directed me (vicariously) and great to see them preserved. My idea was pie in the sky but then one has to occasionally!! And yes I had a suspicion there was a Kerr Stuart influence here. Thanks David
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Post by jordanleeds on Dec 6, 2014 17:56:46 GMT
So all the castings bar the chimney are cast and I am now seeking the services of a pattern maker to repair the chimney pattern as the foundry have rejected it and won't release the other castings until they get a new pattern. Anyone able to suggest someone who is able to repair it and for a modest sum?
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Post by ejparrott on Dec 7, 2014 9:37:23 GMT
What's the damage and the material? I have some experience at dealing with conventional patterns
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Post by jordanleeds on Dec 7, 2014 10:25:50 GMT
Traditional split Timber pattern warped along the length
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Post by ejparrott on Dec 7, 2014 11:41:03 GMT
Warped along it's length. Hmm.. I would say you need to put it on a plane and machine the bottom flat again, then re face it to bring it back to thickness. A man made board would be best I think, try to restrain it. Know anyone with a planing machine?
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Post by jordanleeds on Jan 11, 2015 18:39:21 GMT
With the turn of the new year and with some recent bad news i have had the frame plates Drawn up and am seeking a quote for Laser cutting them with a view to starting work and using this as a bit of respite from the things currently going on. I also have had the Hornguide pattern made up and this will go to the foundry next week along with the repaired chimmney pattern.
Going to machine up a set of snaps to go into my windy gun at work and will rivet the bufferbeam and angles up shortly ready to put the frames together squarely
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Post by jordanleeds on Jan 17, 2015 19:38:26 GMT
Two pages of just pure waffle with nothing to show for it.. time that changed then Picked the frames up this morning and as it had snowed the car stayed where it was parked, I gained a few strange glances carrying these on the bus home. Locomotive frames by jordan leeds photographyLaser cut in 6mm M/S with one plate etched to aid marking up - some progress at last even if the hard work was done for me
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Post by jordanleeds on Feb 15, 2015 15:48:54 GMT
Yes its him Blethering on about a bagnall again! So following the frames arrival it seems some Errors have crept in stemming back to the conversion of the Imperial units to metric by the third party contractor who drew them out for me and failed to read the dimensions worked out for him alas these things are set to try us . the foundry delivered the Majority of the cast parts this week and the quality on face value seems very good indeed. I shall Proof machine some of the items before we go any further IMAG0431 by jordan leeds photography, on Flickr IMAG0430 by jordan leeds photography, on Flickr The Trailing wheels are a particularly fine casting and Im pleased they turned out well from one of these Resin patterns that are coming to the fore, Other patterns that Im waiting for are the Smokebox saddle, Trailing truck Bolster and Centre and Hornguides.. So dispite the Hicup theres some progress at least
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Post by jordanleeds on Jun 29, 2015 22:35:58 GMT
Picked up the hornguides from the foundry the other week, and skimmed them up one evening.. on the drawing I have their is a lip on the mounting face and I now find myself wondering if it will add value by machining this in granted it would be easy to do but would involve machining the frame openings out another 1/8th on both side of the frames
Any thoughts
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Post by jordanleeds on Aug 13, 2015 18:01:57 GMT
103_0204 by jordan leeds photography, on Flickr They say a picture Paints a thousand words, i spent an afternoon machining the two trailing wheels ready for profiling at a later date using a Large Hydraulic Profiler that a friend has in his workshop ,
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