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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 17:15:07 GMT
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Post by Roger on Oct 29, 2014 18:51:40 GMT
Ah, finally the answer to hot water and injectors...
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Post by jma1009 on Oct 29, 2014 23:47:01 GMT
thank you kindly, alan! i will desist from commenting as i will only upset the petrol/electric brigade! cheers, julian
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Post by Roger on Oct 30, 2014 7:25:33 GMT
thank you kindly, alan! i will desist from commenting as i will only upset the petrol/electric brigade! cheers, julian Oh, go on, you know you want to...
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Post by andyhigham on Oct 30, 2014 8:47:42 GMT
If someone built a model Deltic loco with 2, 18 cylinder supercharged deltic engines I would be IMPRESSED
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Post by smallbrother on Oct 30, 2014 9:22:57 GMT
My 10 year old son and my grandchildren (5, 6 and 12) love our Maxitrak Planet, which is similar to this albeit less powerful.
Horses for courses.
Pete.
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Post by pault on Oct 30, 2014 10:00:55 GMT
You mean a miniature Deltic like this one? www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Tomlinson.htmHot water injectors have been around for donkey’s years, they are known as compound injectors and put simply are pair of injectors, one feeding the other water under pressure (so increasing its boiling point). They were developed for use in hot areas, like say Arizona where water stored in water towers possibly for long periods would be anything but cold.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 11:40:56 GMT
You mean a miniature Deltic like this one? www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Tomlinson.htmHot water injectors have been around for donkey’s years, they are known as compound injectors and put simply are pair of injectors, one feeding the other water under pressure (so increasing its boiling point). They were developed for use in hot areas, like say Arizona where water stored in water towers possibly for long periods would be anything but cold. ----------------- Suddenly I'm feeling very technically inadequate !!------------ mind you, Paxman pistons at £25 = BARGAIN !!.............. And to think that we used to scrap literally dozens of similar sized pistons at ABRO Donnington..( CV8's and CV12's Paul..)................. I know this might sound a bit churlish but if only he had built a PAIR of these engines together, then put them into an appropriate sized Class 55 body----WOW !!
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Post by digger on Oct 30, 2014 11:43:46 GMT
If someone built a model Deltic loo with 2, 18 cylinder supercharged deltic engines I would be IMPRESSED I believe Roy Amsbury came close. Digger
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Post by Roger on Oct 30, 2014 12:58:20 GMT
If someone built a model Deltic loo with 2, 18 cylinder supercharged deltic engines I would be IMPRESSED I would be too, but I still wouldn't get much out of driving it. I agree that they have their uses though, you can't let small children loose on a steam engine and some people love them. Each to their own, but I drove one and there was nothing to do to hold my attention.
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Post by pault on Oct 30, 2014 16:27:05 GMT
I had a CV12 piston with bits of valve imbedded in it as an ash tray for a while, but then went to a hydrogas piston as it held more. the most important thing about any little deltic engine is getting the sound right. You need to hear a full sized one to understand and no its no good listening to one on youtube
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 17:37:28 GMT
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Post by Roger on Oct 30, 2014 17:41:11 GMT
They don't seem to be short of many takers.... what a good way to raise a few quid.
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Post by Rob on Oct 30, 2014 21:26:28 GMT
About 15 years ago I remember seeing a very highly detailed "Deltic" prototype model at a model engineering show somewhere (I wish I could remember which one!), it must have been 7 1/4", and the detail went down to the newspaper and sandwiches sat in the cab. That, coupled with a pair of those... I wonder if anyone is familiar with that model? I can't stress how detailed it was. Not the usual approximations you see for the diesels.
Must admit though, I'd prefer a 12CSVT. If you could get that to sound right with the governor, I may never touch a steam engine again.
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Post by pault on Oct 30, 2014 21:38:05 GMT
12CSVT Yawn a slow plodding lump lol
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Post by Rob on Oct 30, 2014 21:52:34 GMT
But what a sound! I have very, very fond memories as a child of the 37s growling up the mainline. Where I live I'm right on a hill, so had the sound just wafting up. Living within a few miles of quite a few big steel works such as Llanwern helped no end too. The other appealing sound was a whistling Valenta. I think that when you hear these things as a young child, the sound brings back many good memories so people may not understand the appeal. I remember my brother and I always running up to the power cars just before they throttled up. Very sad that they re-engined them, they're soulless these days.
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Post by pault on Oct 30, 2014 21:58:06 GMT
sorry Rob when its comes to noise there is nothing like a Deltic
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Post by Rob on Oct 30, 2014 22:08:12 GMT
I agree that the Deltic is also a very fine sound, but it's too refined for me. I think the unevenness of the governor makes it for the 37.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 0:15:10 GMT
Just for those not privvy to what you're on about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 0:17:04 GMT
But what a sound! I have very, very fond memories as a child of the 37s growling up the mainline. Where I live I'm right on a hill, so had the sound just wafting up. Living within a few miles of quite a few big steel works such as Llanwern helped no end too. The other appealing sound was a whistling Valenta. I think that when you hear these things as a young child, the sound brings back many good memories so people may not understand the appeal. I remember my brother and I always running up to the power cars just before they throttled up. Very sad that they re-engined them, they're soulless these days. ------------------------------- now you know where all those scrap Paxman pistons came from ??
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