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Post by bobpendleton on Mar 12, 2009 0:20:25 GMT
Also they did a personal on HJ Wyatt in the Who's Who in Model Engineering No38 in the series of who's who in 1937 (about September). Computers are so literal! My search for H.J.spaceWyatt produced nothing. H.J.nospaceWyatt or just 'Wyatt' gives three entries: ME 1797 - metal polishing ME 1898 - who's who ME 1903 - the crane I have 1898 and 1903 and if Alan hasn't got there first I'll dig them out. (Under the weather at the moment - there'll be trouble if I go out to the workshop now!) Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Mar 11, 2009 18:19:58 GMT
Steve: I expect you have Googled any likely topics and maybe consulted the Model Engineer index for the period. As far as ME goes I cannot see very much but surely there would be a report of the 1937 prizewinner somewhere? Not to the point of mentioning "H.J. Wyatt" in the index though, unless I am mistaken. No doubt the Company would have advertised in ME but that would not show up in the Index. There are a couple of Google results that may interest you: 'a little horsepower' - www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0515.htmand 'Ipswich Transport Museum' - www.ipswichtransportmuseum.co.uk/eas918.htmCheers, Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jan 9, 2009 18:53:52 GMT
I'd happily paypal a quid to download complete articles from old editions that are otherwise no longer available. It is surely worth paying something for copies of old articles. However, it may not be as simple as that. Take the case of a construction series. That would involve someone looking out several issues and scanning or copying the required pages. Allowing for the detached paragraphs involved in 'continued on page xxx', that could be a long job for someone. Assuming, that is, that a complete set is actually available - I recall that the former Editor advertised for a complete set and, given present realities, his successors may well find themselves in the same boat. A possibly more practical solution is to buy the required article(s) from eBay. Currently a search for 'Model Engineer' has been producing in excess of 800 entries. Not all of these are for the magazine itself but those that are are often for complete volumes, or even more. Sadly, though, sometimes there is a crucial copy that is missing and hard to find. In those circumstances perhaps it might be legitimate for members of this List to help each other out on a strictly once off, 'for private study only' basis. Whatever, let us be grateful that we now have an Editor who is so clearly willing to listen and eager to keep both magazines in the forefront of our reading. It's rather tough on him, though, that there is so much good reading in the old issues. When the workshop is uninviting, what better than to browse a few copies from one's private archive! Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Dec 24, 2008 20:17:08 GMT
As such it was THE place to go to look, share, admire and communicate to fellow hobbyists aside from the clubs themselves. Of course that's little consolation David, and no doubt your job would be a whole lot easier were it not for the internet. So I suppose you need to enable people to justify spending the money on the hard copy rather than turn on the PC, not an easy job. . Yes. There's the rub. We want the mags to be "must have" yet we don't want to wait weeks for queries to appear in print and longer to see the replies. 'Postbag' is invaluable for the unique personal knowledge that correspondents record. Quote again: very exciting to have a pic of one's loco in it somewhere (fame!) or that of an acqaintance or fellow club member, or just of the event one has also been to. [And again], I happen to think the coverage of efficiency competitions is very appealing, for eg the one on IMLEC 2008 ... and an important historical record too Two thoughts to add, David. Some illustrations have tended to look like space fillers rather than informative. We don't need pictures of empty sheds and 13amp double sockets! (Workshop number). On the positive side, the quality of reproduction is far and away better than some of the old grainy black and white pictures. Secondly (pedant!) do watch those 'grocer's apostrophes'. Editorials, contributors and advertisers are all guilty there. Merry Christmas all, Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Dec 15, 2008 10:13:28 GMT
Here's the easy bit. Finding (and maybe copying) the issues may take some time!
Sanderson Beam Engine, Model Engineer, Volumes 181 - 183, Issue Nos. 4083, 5, 7, 9, 4091, 3, 5, 7, 9, 4101, 3, 5
Regards and best wishes, Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jul 9, 2008 8:59:20 GMT
Cotswold If you want to add some Tich errors here is what I have found so far. When fitting the brake column to the rear buffer beam drill and tap the mounting hole. Don’t clearance drill it and try to fit a nut on the underside (LBSC) as there isn’t room.Paul D I haven't checked the drawings but both editions of Simple Locomotive Building (the hardback and the limp orange covered 'New Revised Edition') give the alternative of drilling and tapping the buffer beam (page 252 in both editions). It would be interesting to know all the changes indicated by that 'New, Revised'. I see I have annotated my copies to say that the drawing on p.17 shows 1 1/32" in the hardback and 1 11/32" in the revised - see text, page 15, second paragraph (both correct, it is only the drawing that differs) Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jun 28, 2008 16:13:34 GMT
Hi Bob, I think we are saying the same, but in two slightly different scenarios. Thanks, Giles. Agreed! There's maybe only a slight connection between a 30 year stint of domestic boiler firing and being fireman on a rocking loco! So ash, whether above or below the bars, and clinker (usually above) can all lead to conditions of local overheating and distortion or even meltdown of the bars. In the domestic situation, I always found it easy to have a daily routine of ash emptying whether the tray was full or not but when it comes to clinker, no such timetable applied. You cleared the clinker whenever necessary. In the context of Baggo's observations: Baggo 1a "the more likely you're going to get clinker and the shorter the life of the grate." and Baggo 1b "The problem of ash building up and blocking the grate seems to me to be a strange reason for grate burning" I was trying to support Baggo's point (as I thought) that clinker is the bigger evil as it is unlikely to go away on its own, as ash does to some extent, and based on my own experience his theory that the airflow, or rather lack of it, adds to the damage seemed very reasonable. Now I can appreciate that a full ashpan is just as bad (maybe worse, as it could choke the entire firebed) but thankfully that situation rarely occurred except by my own neglect or absence. Luckily, though, no great harm could come of it as without air, the fire simply died and had to be re-lit. Many thanks for the elucidation! Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jun 28, 2008 8:08:42 GMT
Baggo, I'm afraid the airflow through a grate to cool it is a reality - and applies to full size as well as the small stuff! Obviously, when ash start building up, it doesn't spread itself about uniformly and neatly, as the tide does when it comes in, so actually one area of the grate will become choked whilst all around is burning well, and so this is the area that'll get burnt out. I'm not sure whether we are saying the same thing or not. My point re the clinker (below) is that the lump of clinker is preventing cool air flow while you seem to suggest that it is the area burning brightly that overheats, not the choked bit. Or have I misunderstood? It seems to my simple mind that the passage of fresh (I won't call it cold, bearing in mind its proximity to the fire) air will provide some cooling while the choked area can only get hotter, as long as the fire burns and maintains the clinker at red heat as I described. Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jun 28, 2008 4:29:20 GMT
It's interesting to read the different opinions on the Welsh steam versus Anthracite. I've run Helen for the last year on pure anthracite with no clinker problems at all. The only problem I've found is that it burns away fairly quickly and needs frequent firing. I'm now trying a mix of anthracite and steam coal to see if I can do a few more laps between stoking! I've seen many references to using a 50/50 mix for best results although I think it depends on the individual engine and the running conditions. We ran a Trianco hopper fed central heating boiler for over 30 years. Two people of my acquaintance burned out their firebars but ours were in good shape when the boiler eventually gave up the ghost last year. This used anthracite beans and it could be tricky to keep alight unless it was working reasonably hard (ie, the radiators were 'on', when the thermostat would open up the air intake). Regarding the effect of reduced airflow, from our experience in cold weather the build up of clinker could cover half the grate in one solid lump. As long as there was draught to keep the rest of the fire alight, this lump of clinker would remain red hot and I imagine this is what causes the damage. Once detected, breaking it up and getting it out became the problem! Best to shut the fire down a bit and pick out the clinker with tongs. Only the smallest clinker fragments could be persuaded to exit via the gaps in the bars. Ash, yes, but clinker, no! It all became a question of striking the right balance: intervene too soon and lovely hot coal would fall into the ashpan; too late and a great cake of clinker. (I've still got some beans left if anyone wants to try them!) Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jun 8, 2008 10:01:51 GMT
No, I'm not going to admit to reading Oxley in the 1950's (I might have though) but my curiosity being whetted I've just had a ferret around...
As far as I can see, ME's number 2692, 2742, 2794, 2846, 2898, 2950, 3002, 3046, 3098, 3152 and possibly others, are where the treasure lies. The first one to hand, 2794 "An Electronic Organ in Four Nights", rambles through an atomic catastrophe (due to his previous experiments), a workshop 'efficiency drive' (one can only use the drilling machine with one leg through the lathe bed) to Bert Higgins' Felinophone for the French court (cats arranged to yowl harmoniously when their tails are tugged from the keyboard until it was discovered that D-flat was having kittens).
Happy hunting then, brothers (and sister). While I'm down there I feel it's a good moment to start a long delayed efficiency drive of my own.
Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Apr 29, 2008 15:00:24 GMT
Jo replied to the poster's query about a private sale: If you post some pictures we may be able to identify the models for you. It is an excellent idea to get a positive identification and I feel sure that Members of this list will enjoy the exercise! However, the writer may not have the experience to get photos onto the List as I note that others have struggled a bit to find the trick of it. Maybe, though, someone with the know-how will volunteer to do it for you. Decent models seem to attract good prices on eBay and it is likely that that path will attract more notice than most others but everything depends on getting a good description and photos so take your time and get all the advice you can. Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Feb 28, 2008 7:49:21 GMT
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Post by bobpendleton on Jan 22, 2008 22:15:28 GMT
No trouble, John. I enjoyed the chase and am sorry that an incomplete series prevented a better result. You are probably right about 'no room' but my collection has another gap from December 1947 through to April 1948 (S.R. Roedean).
Let's hope that one of the other offers will get us nearer to the goal.
If there are any other sleuths out there I'm happy to share my list which briefly describes LBSC's articles from Jun 35 through to the 1950s. There are some very funny prices being asked on eBay at the moment but if the market ever settles down to more realistic levels, I'll be back in the market trying to fill those annoying gaps. Sadly, I have nothing at all pre Jun 1935 or from June 1940 - July 1946 but most other years have a reasonable representation.
Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jan 22, 2008 9:40:11 GMT
Hello, John. I've checked my copies and there's no sign of 'Liberation'. Interestingly, the last issue of 1947 contains an invitation to readers to choose one of four projects for LBSC's next series. Liberation is not one of them.
I have 29 of the 50-odd 1947 issues, the main gaps being half of February and all of March, and then 1116 - 1127, late August to mid November, except 1121 which I do have.
If anyone is interested, I do have spares for 1099, 1100, 1101, 1103 (May). Sorry about 1102 - I'd like one if anyone has a spare!
Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jan 21, 2008 18:00:59 GMT
Sorry about the hiccup with my two earlier posts - the 'quote' got separated from the 'reply'!
A bit more digging in the warm and the dry reveals an addendum to the Croesor (original) edition regarding the illustrations. The note begins: "An attempt has been made <snip> to illustrate <another snip> all of Curly's locomotives. The main omissions are <snip again>, and the 2-8-0 Liberation, described in the periodical Mechanics and based on the locomotives built at the Vulcan Foundry for UNRAA in 1946 for service in war torn Europe".
I wonder what that 'described' means? It may not amount to a full set of building notes. I see that in both editions (Croesor and the Camden 'Memorial' edition) the index gives page 84 for an illustration but I think that has slipped and should refer to the next engine, Lickham Hall.
For what it is worth, there is another 2-8-0 illustrated, the U.S. Austerity (page 70). That one was in Eng. Mechanics, 1943-44.
If there's anything more when I get to look at the actual magazines tomorrow I'll write again.
Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jan 21, 2008 15:45:09 GMT
As far as I can see from my records, LBSC spent most of 1947 on a series on the GWR 1000 (and quite a lot of 1946 come to that - I have a note that the introduction to the series was in 1946, July 26, Volume XL, Issue 1059)
There is a gap in my collection during March 1947 and the series seems to run on after August 1947 but I have some missing after that date.
I'll make a physical check in the morning but would add that sometimes Hollingsworth got his dates wrong.
Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on Jan 21, 2008 15:36:08 GMT
Hi all, Does anyone have copies of English Mechanics for 1947? I'm chasing a design by LBSC for a 2½" gauge 2-8-0 Liberation class loco. The only reference I can find so far is in Brian Hollingsworth's book which says it was described in that publication in that year.
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Post by bobpendleton on Jun 24, 2007 13:16:31 GMT
I really have been astounded at the prices being asked for castings these days. But then I can remember articles in old ME's where someone thought 30s/6p was entirely too much to ask for a full set of wheel castings so mild steel plate was acquired and the castings were created using breast drill, hacksaw blade, and rat-tiled file. Was it ever thus? ME No. 1429, Sept. 1928 has a letter by R Hogan referring to a recent 'homily' by LBSC regarding the cost of parts for model locos. He (Hogan) says: 'the prices asked (--) are not what they should be... It is common to be asked anything from 7s. 6d. to 12s. 6d. each for cylinder castings yet the cost of a pair cast locally off one's own pattern in the finest valve metal, is 3s. the pair when bought by weight'. I hasten to add that this is totally outside my own experience, the magazine being nearly ten years older than me! Quite by coincidence I was reading the magazine within 20 minutes or so of seeing Harry's note. Bob
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Post by bobpendleton on May 21, 2007 19:07:47 GMT
How will you, or could you, prevent this happening to YOUR equipment and models? I seem to remember an Australian(?) solution reported in ME(?) whereby members of the (one day to be) deceased's Club are committed to support the widow in the disposal of his modelling effects. There was a model form of agreement that set out the procedure to be followed. Maybe someone can turn that issue up and remind us of its contents. Bob P
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Post by bobpendleton on May 30, 2007 13:44:38 GMT
The latest orders will be despatched tomorrow - 29 May Andy Badge received this morning, 30 May. (Last batch? How about some more!) Many thanks, Andy, Myfordmatt and to all who contributed their thoughts to the 'project'. Excellent! Bob
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