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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 22:39:55 GMT
great photo's, that backhead shot, in particular, is a goldmine...
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Post by delaplume on Jan 17, 2019 22:41:38 GMT
OOOpppssss......Err, yes---ok---well KGV is welcome at anytime I suppose but I was half expecting The Bear.....
Pete---notice the touch of luxury 1908 style with that wooden lined cab roof inner !!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 22:45:11 GMT
KGV?? I didn't see any battleship's?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 22:47:38 GMT
Pete---notice the touch of luxury 1908 style with that wooden lined cab roof inner !! Oh, I do like that, a nice bit of woodwork always adds to the effect... is it the photo or is the cab really that wide with a shallow roof profile?
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Post by delaplume on Jan 18, 2019 10:19:50 GMT
Pete---notice the touch of luxury 1908 style with that wooden lined cab roof inner !! Oh, I do like that, a nice bit of woodwork always adds to the effect... is it the photo or is the cab really that wide with a shallow roof profile? Hello Peter, In a word -------------- YES !! The Cabsides are at full loco width whilst the roof, as originally built, almost overlapped the fallplate..........Later on a Fireman managed to get his Fireiron well and truly jammed between the roof and the cab floor so, after it's removal the roof was shortened a little.... Here are two photos showing the small but significant difference...............The first is an O gauge model...
Note also the position of the reverser handle....... and the waterscoop dome ie}---- right in the middle of the coal space !!
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Post by delaplume on Jan 18, 2019 10:40:12 GMT
KGV?? I didn't see any battleship's? Ah-ha !!.........someone who knows his WW2 Warships then ?? No, not this type of King George V --------> ------------> But this one}---------------
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 10:54:27 GMT
oh.. I'm a bit of an egghead on RN warships.. it's been a pet subject since a boy, in fact, most things WW2 related are logged deep in my mind somewhere... Pete
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Post by delaplume on Jan 18, 2019 11:38:23 GMT
oh.. I'm a bit of an egghead on RN warships.. it's been a pet subject since a boy, in fact, most things WW2 related are logged deep in my mind somewhere... Pete Good lad !!......To my mind Engineering of a Military nature demands the very best either from the individual or the Company, group etc involved.....and Marine Engineering by virtue of its' singular remoteness will require a certain degree of resourcefulness as well...........as do the Space Astronauts......Apollo 13 springs to mind.....or the Round-the-World sailing record holders.... Here's a WW2 related question for you}----------- What happened on 29th December, 2006 ??
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2019 11:49:45 GMT
ah.. not really my era for WW2 and I had to check what I thought it might be if talking WW2 but yes I was right although I would have put the date later than that. It's when the UK finally finished paying off it's US dept from WW2. Try telling that to the EU commission president, who I recall was boating recently how it was the EU who freed Europe from Hitler's Germany?.. I mean.. you couldn't make this S**t up.... Pete
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Post by RGR 60130 on Jan 18, 2019 12:39:47 GMT
KGV?? I didn't see any battleship's? I remember KGV as a dock on the Thames somewhere. I was there as a sprog on a fruit carrier when the boiler blew back. We made a hasty departure before anyone could ask questions leaving two engineers behind in hospital. The Chief was bandaged up like a mummy but came with us as we needed his ticket on board. Reg
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Post by delaplume on Jan 18, 2019 20:12:41 GMT
Nice one, Reg......Here we go then--------King George the Fith and Royal Docks in more prosperous times}---------
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Post by RGR 60130 on Jan 18, 2019 20:26:47 GMT
Is that a 'Port Boat' I see in Royal Albert? Possibly Port Melbourne. My first ship was the Port St.Lawrence. Open switchboard DC electrics, opposed piston B&W engine. A cast of thousands onboard. Happy days.
Reg
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Post by delaplume on Jan 18, 2019 20:50:01 GMT
Burmeister & Wain ??---------Blimey, that brings back some happy memories.......Final year of Phase 2 Royal Navy Marine Engineering Apprenticeship at HMS Caledonia, Rosyth, Scotland.....The Technical library was awash with all sorts of books, publications, wall charts etc covering all the various Boilers, propulsion units, gearboxes, plumber blocks, Turbines, condensers et al !!.........My particular favourite chart was a sectioned B & W Diesel that took up about half the wall it seemed ---- ( Probably smaller in reality but just indulge me a little, eh ?? ).....I learnt a great deal from that....
But then when I was posted into the Fleet all I ever saw was ASR 1's ---2's ---- 3's etc (Admiralty Standard Range No 1 --which I think was an English Electric Diesel ) and Yarrow Y100 Boilers....nothing quite like the quality that the B&W poster illuded to...and Enfield Vs1 and Ho2 in the liberty boats...
Incidentally it was whilst at "Calley" that I started building a Rob Roy--what else could it be ?? ....and got the various Civvy Instructors to help me out understanding Tech Drawing, Pattern Making, Foundry work---Calley had it's own foundry and Pattern Making shop.....I had a set of 6 wheels cast but as disc-type for simplicity....
It's one thing to pass exams etc but to put that to a practical application is more to the point I think ....
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Post by delaplume on Jan 18, 2019 20:52:10 GMT
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Post by mbrown on Jan 18, 2019 21:31:39 GMT
When I worked for the Mission to Seamen in Tilbury in the mid 1970s I used to talk my way into any engine rooms I could. At that time, many of the beautiful old Blue Funnel (Blue Flue) ships were being laid up at Tilbury prior to sale or scrapping and if I remember correctly they too had opposed piston diesels - I think by Doxford. The whole engine room felt much more "steam age" than the more modern ships with their big V12s or whatever. I also used to visit the last of the steam colliers coming down from the NE to the Thames power stations, still with triple expansion engines - Stephenson valve gear and poppet valves. They were all oil fired by then, but the oldest, the Cliff Quay, had been built for coal firing and you could still see the bunker doors in the stokehold, welded up so that the bunker could carry oil. Happy days... I never did get to sea on one of them, sadly.
Maybe this belongs better on "Interesting careers" than "The Great Bear", but I hope Alan won't mind a shot of nostalgia!
Malcolm
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Post by delaplume on Jan 19, 2019 1:32:12 GMT
Hi Malcolm,
Quote}---"but I hope Alan won't mind a shot of nostalgia!"..........Of course I don't mind..After all, as someone once said---Nostalgia isn't what it used to be, is it ??
Well done for working in The Mission for Seamen..An organisation that doesn't get half the "Oxygen of Publicity" that it deserves....along with Aggie Weston's for the RN..( Grey Funnel line )..
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Post by delaplume on Jan 19, 2019 9:22:54 GMT
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Post by jordanleeds on Jan 19, 2019 21:35:17 GMT
A very interesting thread and given the original locos significance its nice to see it being built . On with the second pacific in the UK myself
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Post by delaplume on Jan 20, 2019 1:53:05 GMT
A bit more progress on the model}------ At last, after 1 funeral, a broken drill inside the axle, and a Domestic crisis I was able to finish the 4th and final wheel assembly for the two bogies on the tender....Next will be a small bit of spoke fettling --- to be honest they don't really need it as the castings were exceptionally smooth to start with but I've just noticed a few little "nodules" that need the touch of a medium file.... Then it'll be time to prep and paint....This will be done in conjunction with the Simplex wheel sets you may have seen being worked on elsewhere.....So a marathon 14 wheels to be sorted !!..The Simplex will then get priority as it currently has 10 months of Steam ticket and 3 years of Hydraulic.... The axlebox is actually from the loco bogie---I included it just for visual effect.
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Post by delaplume on Jan 28, 2019 13:21:09 GMT
Hello everyone-
It's just coming up to the end of another month--- time to do a bit more on The Bear and I was thinking about having to put some "Joggles" in The Bear's mainframes.....I see that the large Prairies have this joggle to help clear the pony wheels..Has anyone made this feature at all ??--------
Did you use a bending jig or former ??---Did you use heat or did it cold ??.......My problem is that the mainframes I have were originally for a 5" Castle and had a large, arched piece removed just above the front bogie flange.....This I've now filled in but it still requires the early, Churchward form of clearance ie}--- The Frame joggle..
I realise that when done this will induce a Frame fore-shortening at the front , but this can be compensated for within the buffer beam attachment area....
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