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Post by simplyloco on Jul 14, 2019 19:23:17 GMT
This working passenger model was made by Mr. J.K.Scarth in 1955. The picture is from my lovely book: 'Model Railway Engines' by J.E.Minnes. It looks wonderful, and I will do my best to emulate it, especially now that I can make miniature valves, but I might just paint mine...  John PS. I can't see a sight glass! Where is it? Not that tiny tube to the left of centre?   scarth pic.jpg by inkaboat, on Flickr |
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Post by glynmar on Jul 14, 2019 19:52:24 GMT
Found the thread so will look forward to your progress. Mind will have to wait until I finish the Lassie which is now almost ready for painting and lining. Yours is very crisp in it’s build mine is less precise but for me as a novice is pretty much complete. Endless hours ahead though for me cleaning and removing paint back to bare metal.
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Post by ettingtonliam on Jul 14, 2019 20:32:13 GMT
This working passenger model was made by Mr. J.K.Scarth in 1955. The picture is from my lovely book: 'Model Railway Engines' by J.E.Minnes. It looks wonderful, and I will do my best to emulate it, especially now that I can make miniature valves, but I might just paint mine... John PS. I can't see a sight glass! Where is it? Not that tiny tube to the left of centre? scarth pic.jpg by inkaboat, on Flickr Do we know where the model is now? |
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 14, 2019 20:35:55 GMT
This working passenger model was made by Mr. J.K.Scarth in 1955. The picture is from my lovely book: 'Model Railway Engines' by J.E.Minnes. It looks wonderful, and I will do my best to emulate it, especially now that I can make miniature valves, but I might just paint mine... John PS. I can't see a sight glass! Where is it? Not that tiny tube to the left of centre? Do we know where the model is now? No I don't, but someone will... John |
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Post by David on Jul 14, 2019 22:12:12 GMT
They certainly look like gauge glass fittings above/below that tube. There was an article in the local ME mag recently about the effect of various tube diameters for gauge glasses and thinner ones look to be quite misleading.
Other than that, what a beauty! That curved angle on the spectacle plate wouldn't have been easy.
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Post by lankyyorky on Jul 15, 2019 0:10:24 GMT
Is this the one that was in the Science Museum?
I remember seeing this or one very similar several years ago but last time I visited a lot of displays had been replaced by computer interactive stuff, sign of the times, I suppose.
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Post by JonL on Jul 15, 2019 1:54:14 GMT
I look forward to seeing this one progress.
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Post by ettingtonliam on Jul 15, 2019 6:51:00 GMT
According to the Reeves website, their version of the Stirling single is an update by David Piddington from the original JK Scarth drawings. Presumably the ones he did for the model in the first posting?
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 15, 2019 11:30:00 GMT
Here's an eight minute film of the beast in action, taken before drones equipped with Go-Pros were invented! I just love the slow beat of the engine and the effortless gait with the big wheels. The crew don't look very dirty, probably for the benefit of the telly! I'm quite looking forward to this: I'm off into the workshop to convert my rolling stand to 5" . www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGyjqVkz638 |
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 15, 2019 11:40:16 GMT
According to the Reeves website, their version of the Stirling single is an update by David Piddington from the original JK Scarth drawings. Presumably the ones he did for the model in the first posting? I will know when I get the drawings and I compare the reality with the theory! John |
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Post by JonL on Jul 15, 2019 12:12:45 GMT
I'm glad your skills are not stopping with just one locomotive. Is the intention to make this static or a steamer?
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 15, 2019 12:27:36 GMT
I'm glad your skills are not stopping with just one locomotive. Is the intention to make this static or a steamer? This will be a runner: you lot would never forgive me if it joined the Brit in the living room!  John |
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Post by JonL on Jul 15, 2019 13:56:39 GMT
Fantastic.
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 15, 2019 19:02:20 GMT
I've been exploring the sales pictures further, and the attention to detail is amazing. This brake shoe actuator appears to have an adjuster, presumably to keep the trailing edge in proper contact when the shoe 'bites'. Lovely stuff! John  |
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Post by Midland on Jul 15, 2019 20:31:55 GMT
Clearly "Simplyloco" has been 'on the road to damascus' and will have to rename himself as he is not quite so simple as you might think, but and there is a but, he tells me Stephenson's is simple, oops just bumped into the elephant in the room!!!
Best wishes for your first steaming!!
David
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 15, 2019 21:12:12 GMT
Clearly "Simplyloco" has been 'on the road to damascus' and will have to rename himself SNIP David 'The Road to Dementia' more like! Looking at the model in my first post, which looks amazing, I have to wonder what mine would look like clad in 26g Titanium, of which I have quite a lot!  Ducking...  John |
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Post by suctionhose on Jul 15, 2019 23:28:25 GMT
The picture shown in the first post is one that I have pored over many times. The same photograph was published in a magazine that I had as a child (1970,s) called "History of Model and Miniature Railways".
The text says the model is "a 1/8 scale (ie 7.25"g) built by the Baines brothers from the correct materials, etc... and without a tender". It indicates then that the model was at South Kensington (Science Museum).
Regards comments about the water gauge, I imagine the model was not a runner but built to scale in every respect. It is absolutely beautifully finished and personally, always been a great inspiration to make a better job of it next time...
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Post by ettingtonliam on Jul 16, 2019 1:19:11 GMT
Confused. A working model by J K Scarth or a model by a pair of brothers called Baines? That water gauge would suggest non working though.
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Post by JonL on Jul 16, 2019 8:59:09 GMT
I suspect with only a single driven axle you want more adhesive weight, not less!
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Post by simplyloco on Jul 16, 2019 9:03:23 GMT
I suspect with only a single driven axle you want more adhesive weight, not less! Ah, but I've got lots of thin lead sheet that I could use instead of insulation! |
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