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Post by simon6200 on Jan 26, 2023 9:32:30 GMT
I like this forum because there are loco people here. But posting photos is too convoluted and I won’t bother again. The ME Forum is easy to post photos, but every time I visit, I have to log in, so I don’t post as much as I would. These days the latter is mostly machinery and tooling enthusiasts. If new people ask loco questions, they usually go unanswered. I would direct them here, but then I would have to log in to post, so usually don’t.
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Post by chris vine on Jan 26, 2023 9:51:23 GMT
Hi Simon,
I don't know if you have missed it maybe, (it is quite small), but there is a tick-box to keep you signed in to this forum. It's on the signing in screen. It seems to remember for ages unless you delete cookies etc from your computer.
Yes, I agree, the hurdle to putting pictures on this forum is a shame.
Hope that helps. Chris.
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Post by simon6200 on Jan 26, 2023 10:01:35 GMT
Chris, I have been logged into this forum since about 2014! It is ME Forum that is infuriating. Sometimes the iPad has not left my hands but when I go back to ME I am logged out. Like photos here, no one can fix it.
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Post by andyhigham on Jan 26, 2023 10:02:37 GMT
I find looking at this forum on my phone infuriating. It defaults to "Dashboard" which makes it difficult to view long threads as there is no provision to go the last post, only the first. I can change it to "Desktop" by going to the very bottom of the page but it changes itself back to "dashboard" the next day
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Post by stevep on Jan 26, 2023 11:20:20 GMT
The only problem I have with viewing this forum on my phone (iPhone) is if the pictures are uploaded vey large, and then I can't move sideways to see the rest of the picture.
As far as posting pictures is concerned, I find it an absolute doddle. I remain logged in to both my MECH account and my Flikr account. I've just tested it, and I uploaded a picture from my computer to Flikr (most of the time was navigating to the right folder to get the picture), bringing up the picture on Flikr and copying the link, and then pasting it into the message. (I removed the posted link afterwards, as I didn't think you would want to see a spurious picture). Total time 1 minute 22 seconds.
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Post by jasonb on Jan 26, 2023 11:26:47 GMT
Chris, I have been logged into this forum since about 2014! It is ME Forum that is infuriating. Sometimes the iPad has not left my hands but when I go back to ME I am logged out. Like photos here, no one can fix it. Ticking the "remember me" box just under your password will help a lot on ME Forum but if visiting on more than one device that will nock you off which is the only reason I have to log in again.
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Post by timb on Jan 26, 2023 13:26:21 GMT
Did not mean to like my own post, managed to click it whilst aiming for edit - sorry.
Tim, click it again and it will "un-like" it.
Regards, Steve
So it does! Another 'learning day'.
Thanks Steve!
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Post by Roger on Jan 26, 2023 15:14:22 GMT
I do find it bizarre that taking the trouble to post what I do is considered by some as 'blowing my own trumpet'. I can't think of anything more likely to make me not bother than comments like that.
As for the other complaint, I do encourage others. However, I usually keep myself to myself, because I've been attacked for expressing my views when trying to help.
I'm not going to bother with anything other than my own thread in future. Call it what you like, but it really isn't worth the heartache of contributing elsewhere when all you get is flack and negativity.
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Post by andyhigham on Jan 26, 2023 15:31:03 GMT
A simple rule for any internet forum. Don't make a comment to someone that you wouldn't say to them face to face
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Post by smallbrother on Jan 26, 2023 17:19:42 GMT
I do find it bizarre that taking the trouble to post what I do is considered by some as 'blowing my own trumpet'. I can't think of anything more likely to make me not bother than comments like that. As for the other complaint, I do encourage others. However, I usually keep myself to myself, because I've been attacked for expressing my views when trying to help. I'm not going to bother with anything other than my own thread in future. Call it what you like, but it really isn't worth the heartache of contributing elsewhere when all you get is flack and negativity. I really cannot fathom some folk. You've always been helpful and willing to share knowledge as far as I'm concerned. With all that goes on around us these days I shouldn't be surprised but, unlike real life, this is just a hobby and is supposed to be for fun. Pete.
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Post by jem on Jan 26, 2023 17:57:33 GMT
Roger don't go, you are a mine of information even for one who will never build a loco, I for one have learnt so much from you. On top of that, when I have asked a question, you have often given of your knowledge,
Many thanks. Jem
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Post by JonL on Jan 26, 2023 18:16:02 GMT
I thought the point of build threads was to show what people are doing! I don't consider that trumpet blowing, or if it is I don't care. I'm here to learn, gain inspiration and motivation. The build threads are my main draw (even if I don't flesh mine out with much)
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Post by chris vine on Jan 26, 2023 20:54:00 GMT
Hi Roger,
I am not sure who has said this, but they are wrong. I fully value your build thread and many other contributions. Especially the fact that you usually either have direct experience or have done some research which you then present.
Keep it up!!!
Chris.
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Post by springcrocus on Jan 26, 2023 21:55:15 GMT
Hi Roger, I am not sure who has said this, but they are wrong. I fully value your build thread and many other contributions. Especially the fact that you usually either have direct experience or have done some research which you then present. Keep it up!!! Chris. I used the term "blowing their own trumpet" and I wasn't specifically referring to Roger. It was a generalisation of all those who care only for their own posts. I've always been interested in sharing rather than pontificating but, at this point, I'm getting pissed of with with all the selfishness shown on this forum.
I wonder who will be the last man standing.
Regards to all, Steve
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Post by GWR 101 on Jan 26, 2023 23:03:25 GMT
Steve, thanks for the heads up great build, I will follow with interest. Paul
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Post by samc88 on Jan 26, 2023 23:43:16 GMT
I like the layout of the traction talk forum which is divided into build logs and another for technical questions. I dont post much on here but I do enjoy reading build logs, they're a gold mine of ideas. Having technical topics in one area may help reduce duplicate threads as there are a lot of topics in general chat to get through and I find the search occasionally hit and miss
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Post by runner42 on Jan 27, 2023 6:46:08 GMT
I do find it bizarre that taking the trouble to post what I do is considered by some as 'blowing my own trumpet'. I can't think of anything more likely to make me not bother than comments like that. As for the other complaint, I do encourage others. However, I usually keep myself to myself, because I've been attacked for expressing my views when trying to help. I'm not going to bother with anything other than my own thread in future. Call it what you like, but it really isn't worth the heartache of contributing elsewhere when all you get is flack and negativity. Roger you are approaching 15,000 posts so statistically with sometimes an assertive response you are going to ruffle a few feathers,but of the belief that you are being helpful. You should not be daunted by this you have earned your stripes and for me your Speedy blog is the go to one for pushing the envelope on ME matters. You will notice that I have stopped long ago pressing the like button because you appear reluctant to finish the project and this is a source of frustration. With your ability to produce remarkable results with your machining skills in short time-scales you could have produced 3 locomotives by now. So concentrating on finishing Speedy will be better all round. We are awaiting the first steaming. Brian
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Post by jasonb on Jan 27, 2023 7:20:37 GMT
I think the knife can cut both ways. Some people just blindly post a "good progress" or" nice work" comment where others look a bit closer at what has been posted and if they comment on what they see that may be wrong on done not done in a good/easy/accepted way may put people off rather than the intended reason to help or steer them in the right direction.
It's something I do and I would imagine Roger would be similar and it's been said on other forums only make positive comments which does not help people learn so sometimes it is best to just look an not actually post.
For example I commented on a build that a part looked like it was upside down, reply came back with a quick "Turn it the other way up" I then went back and said how as the part is handed it only fits one way and then I was said to be taking a Pop by the poster. Intension was to point out the possible problem early and save grief further down the line. Another example where the poster had the cutter drop and possibly scrap the part, several just posted "nice progress, etc" but only I offered a fix, maybe it is the Woke thing to do and just say how good errors and mistakes, are who knows?
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Post by Roger on Jan 27, 2023 8:01:11 GMT
I do find it bizarre that taking the trouble to post what I do is considered by some as 'blowing my own trumpet'. I can't think of anything more likely to make me not bother than comments like that. As for the other complaint, I do encourage others. However, I usually keep myself to myself, because I've been attacked for expressing my views when trying to help. I'm not going to bother with anything other than my own thread in future. Call it what you like, but it really isn't worth the heartache of contributing elsewhere when all you get is flack and negativity. Roger you are approaching 15,000 posts so statistically with sometimes an assertive response you are going to ruffle a few feathers,but of the belief that you are being helpful. You should not be daunted by this you have earned your stripes and for me your Speedy blog is the go to one for pushing the envelope on ME matters. You will notice that I have stopped long ago pressing the like button because you appear reluctant to finish the project and this is a source of frustration. With your ability to produce remarkable results with your machining skills in short time-scales you could have produced 3 locomotives by now. So concentrating on finishing Speedy will be better all round. We are awaiting the first steaming. Brian Hi Brian, Thanks for that. Unfortunately life gets in the way of making progress on a project, and not being able to see well enough has been one reason for not getting 1501 finished. We've also started fostering dogs, had weddings and funerals and other family health issues. It's not reluctance. However, the journey is much more important and interesting than the destination in my opinion. I could have steamed it years ago without much detail, but then it's almost certain that I'd never have bothered to go back and finish it properly. I'm doing this for my pleasure, not the wider audience, although they are welcome to come along for the ride. Machining isn't where the time goes, it's the design. Making something from plans is so much quicker. When all you've got is photographs, a partial set of Works Drawings and you're starting with a chassis that isn't that close to the scale dimensions, it's a real struggle. Knowing what I know now, I'd have started from the Works drawings of the frames, but I didn't even know that 1501 wasn't a freelance locomotive when I started, let alone that there were any Works drawings. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Yes, people do get their feathers ruffled, mostly because they don't like change and don't like the fact that their view of the World is being challenged. If I put my views robustly, it's because I've taken the time to come to a defensible position that I'm not afraid to stand by. I'm not about to roll over or change my views just because people don't agree with me. I'll be staying exclusively on my SPEEDY thread from now on. I'll leave others to moan about how rubbish EVs are, and anyone's a fool if they buy one. It's no fun being talked down to, being told that you don't know what you're talking about. When something isn't fun any more, it's time to let it go. I've explained what I think it's about to the best of my ability, and that's all I can do. I happen to think it's exciting and interesting, others don't seem to think so. Everyone is going to be affected by the change pretty soon whether they like it of not.
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Post by Jo on Jan 27, 2023 8:20:34 GMT
Posting encouragement can be just what someone needs. Ok so a 'Well done', 'good progress' sounds a bit naf but it is important to encourage people. We proved a few years back that the like button can be abused In replying to someone to point out a problem, or something you have an alternative opinion of, if it is not carefully worded can come over as arrogant and to get their backs up. It is a very delicate art which has to be balanced with showing appreciation of what has been done and just enough of a polite pointer to help. Most people having posted and slept on it will realise their own problems. If it is done wrong all that happens is people stop posting their model builds or participating in the threads. If we all had good communication skills we would not be on our own in our workshop for hours on end but out socialising all the time. Jo
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