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Post by starspider on Feb 20, 2007 12:12:12 GMT
Came across this today maybe of interest to some one
item number 220083896994
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Post by Laurie_B on Feb 20, 2007 12:38:27 GMT
Very interesting,and looks quite nicely made too.There was also a set of castings for a 'big prairie' on ebay recently.
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Post by dscott on Feb 20, 2007 13:13:41 GMT
I will have a look tonight but will not start another project.
Chinese new year resolution.
David.
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Post by John Lee on Feb 20, 2007 17:20:39 GMT
Ohhh, but look at whats left to do!!!
They are super, a club member has one and also swore never again ;D
John
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Post by Myford Matt on Feb 20, 2007 17:26:36 GMT
Work so far looks to be of a pretty high standard, even if the constructor does say so himself!
MM
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Post by dscott on Feb 20, 2007 22:30:47 GMT
Such a dream to have a pair, but my new wife says not at the moment so its back to more bashing!! metal not wife.
Jake has his heart in the right place by also building a Bulldog, to what standard.
David.
ps. could we all put in £100.00 and buy it as a mad P. T. club loco.
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Post by Laurie_B on Feb 21, 2007 16:50:53 GMT
Ohhh, but look at whats left to do!!! There certainly is,and all those rivets in the water tanks and bunker! They certainly are.Attached are 2 pics of a loco built by Mr Alan Crossfield of the Leyland Society.I saw this model at the Harrogate show in 2005,and again at The Fosse (where the photos were taken) in 2006.   |
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Post by Myford Matt on Feb 21, 2007 19:34:41 GMT
Only 2nd prize?!!! What won 1st??
MM
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Post by John Lee on Feb 21, 2007 19:55:15 GMT
And never steamed up..... Ahh well..two sides to the hobby.
I would rather see a ratty LBSC design used in anger, but then..... that is a superb loco, I wish I had the time and patience to do that.
John
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Post by chameleonrob on Feb 21, 2007 21:18:39 GMT
And never steamed up..... Ahh well..two sides to the hobby. I would rather see a ratty LBSC design used in anger, but then..... that is a superb loco, I wish I had the time and patience to do that. John I know what you mean! it reminds me of chuck th muddle engineer making a fantastic aeroplane, and not daring to fly it. I'd rather have a ratty loco that runs well over a museum piece any day (or so I keep telling myself when I look at my loco) rib |
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Post by Laurie_B on Feb 22, 2007 10:50:00 GMT
Only 2nd prize?!!! What won 1st?? MM Matt, If I remember correctly,1st prize was won by an equally splendid 5" Gauge 'Coronation'.As the Coronation was a much more impressive loco than a suburban tank engine,the Coronation was going to be favourite to win.Mr.Crossfield's 41xx did win 1st prize and the Myford Award at the Harrogate show. Personally I would always prefer to see models built to this standard-at any time!!There are enough ratty (shouldn't that be 'tatty'?  ) old LBSC designed locos about,they are just not in the same league!I believe Mr.Crossfield's loco has subsequently been steamed (what could be better,a quality loco that works too!),and Mr.C had entered another of his locos in a recent IMLEC. |
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Post by John Lee on Feb 22, 2007 19:49:24 GMT
But it depends what you mean about being in the same league. The old designs were a bit crude, but lots of people get lots of fun and start them even now. There are two sides to this, those who enjoy the club atmosphere and just run around what they have (and heat and steam and the usual knocks of operation soon knock the gloss off) or those who have a heart attack if a rivet is misplaced or drops off. I have much more admiration for a beginner who prevails (this is not an easy entry hobby) and learns, than for an old hand who sneers that that is not quite good enough... in his/her opinion. It's a symptom of modern times is it not?; build bigger and better, and more flash and the better person/engineer you are Regards, John |
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Post by Laurie_B on Feb 22, 2007 22:14:12 GMT
The point,I feel,is that high quality models will always stand out as examples of the very best in model engineering.Their efforts will sometimes attract detractors,but that's human nature I suppose. Some of the older designs are a bit crude,but LBSC's 3-1/2" G 'Brit' and 'Schools' are quite fine designs.I have every admiration for beginners and kit builders too,who really should be encouraged to have a go. You're right that some folk just will not steam their engines in case they get them dirty-which with steam engines that is inevitable! It's not about having flash models,(flash cars-maybe! :  it is about the skill of some model engineers to produce award winning models.And their efforts serve as an inspiration to others,well in my view they do. Back towards the topic,the picture below might be of interest,as it is the loco that Trevor Shortland built from his own plans.I believe it is the same model that was sold last year. www.stationroadsteam.co.uk/stock%20pages/2247/index.htm |
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Post by Myford Matt on Feb 22, 2007 23:39:35 GMT
When I was at the Brighton Model show last weekend the best model (by a very long way) was by a builder at my new club, Brighton & Hove. It was a Southern tender loco, but despite my home I'm much more a GWR man, so I can't tell you much more, except that it had won national competitions. Anyway it was absolutely outstanding; paintwork, metal work, detail... and it was spotless, absolutely pristine. I assumed it had never been steamed, but no, it has been regualrly steamed for a couple of years and his wife took great pride in telling me that she cleans it! The point is you can build a beautiful model, steam it and keep it looking good. Chris Vine spent two years painting Bongo, but it didn't stop him steaming it, so why should it stop anyone else. (As an aside, that picture of Brian on Bongo (see Bongo thread) is the best advertisement for ME I can think of, makes me smile like a ten year old everytime I look at it.)
Anyway, I think a moderate amount of 'patina' from use adds to a model.
MM
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Post by dscott on Feb 23, 2007 23:00:48 GMT
I thought lets be different and eventually when mine needs painting is very late BR ash grey weathered and rusty. But underneath all the rivets have to line up and be there!!! Dam.
Thought it would save some work.
David.
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Post by Laurie_B on Feb 24, 2007 11:04:38 GMT
I thought lets be different and eventually when mine needs painting is very late BR ash grey weathered and rusty. David. In that case,David,I would certainly recommend 'Oxley Livery'.This was seen a lot on the 1960's! One person has put in a bid for the ebay loco. |
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Post by dscott on Mar 1, 2007 19:02:50 GMT
It is getting exciting with 7 bidders and ending tonight, well over £2,000 now.
Dam Ive run out of cheques and paypals. Interesting web site, paypalsucks.com
what some people do with money, I am sticking to models.
David
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Post by Laurie_B on Mar 2, 2007 13:04:15 GMT
It finally sold for £2650.20 (not sure what the 20p was about),with 10 bidders finally.
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) old LBSC designed locos about,they are just not in the same league!I believe Mr.Crossfield's loco has subsequently been steamed (what could be better,a quality loco that works too!),and Mr.C had entered another of his locos in a recent IMLEC.
it is about the skill of some model engineers to produce award winning models.And their efforts serve as an inspiration to others,well in my view they do.