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Post by ace on May 22, 2009 22:17:56 GMT
Yes but I was so looking forward to steaming it up this weekend. There has been no sign of use with soft solder on the boiler but looking at the drawings it appears that the 1/8th lip of the backhead has been filed off, this may be the cause of the leaks as some of the strenght will have been removed.
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Post by steam4ian on May 23, 2009 2:09:52 GMT
G'day Ace
Before you put the "hammer through it" redo any structural joints with silver solder so the boiler is strong enough for a hydro. If the leaks are just weaps then ignore them and do what the big boys used to do, put a bucket of cow manure in it and steam it. Use something like oat bran ground up fine in a food blender. When SWMBC asks, tell you are on a health kick.
This very rough and I deserve to be howled down but you were going to destroy the boiler anyway. At least you can steam it.
Regards Ian
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Post by chameleonrob on May 23, 2009 8:15:00 GMT
another option is to use 290 grade locktite on any pin hole leaks, it will wick into the joint and seal it permanently. you need very little strength from it so the high temperature isn't a problem, just don't use it on holes that present as a line as you will need the strength of the solder.
rob
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Post by ace on May 26, 2009 8:31:52 GMT
I think I am going to have to settle for making a new boiler, I have repaired the leaks on the back-head but have been unable to get to the cross tube/s in the boiler. The leak appears to be well inside and is leaking quite a bit under pressure (90psi). I would like to run the loco at locations other than my own garden and so I may opt for a new certified boiler. I feel that this one is just to full of repairs to withstand another full test. (60% silver solder 40% copper now) ;D ;D ;D
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Post by spamcanman on May 26, 2009 10:51:14 GMT
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Post by ace on May 26, 2009 12:12:10 GMT
Hi Tony
Yes 'Just the ticket' is selling both kit and pre made boiler so I may be tempted to buy a certified one.
ace
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Post by spamcanman on May 26, 2009 18:45:50 GMT
Hi Tony Yes 'Just the ticket' is selling both kit and pre made boiler so I may be tempted to buy a certified one. ace Steve the boilers in our size (G1) don't have to be certified like larger gauges although at some G1MRA meetings they will ask for a G1MRA boiler certificate authorized through them not through the federation so you could build the kit boiler yourself and get it tested at a meeting.
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Post by ace on May 26, 2009 21:24:29 GMT
Cheers Tony, I would prefer to make my own boiler just for the satisfaction that I made it ;D and for the experience when I get to the stage of building my V2's boiler. I have joined the G1MRA with the intention of running a loco at a club near me. Just waiting for the membership confirmation. I was unsure about the certification just assumed that if you wanted to run a loco in public so to speak you needed a certificate.
steve
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Post by bookworm on May 27, 2009 9:32:56 GMT
Hi Ace,
Wecome to the G1MRA, don't forget that they have an excellent forum of their own available to members only, with many experienced gauge 1 members willing to ofer help and advice.
I didn't think they certificated boilers at meetings though - you live and learn. The G1MRA certification is, as I understand it, a 2 part affair. First they require just the boiler to be tested and then you reassemble the loco and they look at it again.
To anyone else reading this who is not a member of G1MRA, I would say the club magazine alone is worth the membership fee!
Peter
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Post by spamcanman on May 27, 2009 10:22:36 GMT
can I just mention that at some of the larger events (ally pally, harrogate) sometimes the testing equipment is there to test boilers they can also be tested at the G1MRA AGM in November.
The loco's can be tested when completed I have all my Asters done after assembly not before.
The G1MRA magazine is probably the best and most professional magazine any club produces and as Peter says the joining is worth that alone as for the forum well, steer well clear!
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Post by ace on May 27, 2009 22:22:07 GMT
Forum that bad then....
steve
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Post by bookworm on May 28, 2009 9:58:08 GMT
Come on the G1MRA forum isn't that bad. Like everywhere else you have those members who believe that their way is the only way of doing things - but they are in a minority.
Ok I admit it did get acrimonious at one time, but since the new moderator took over it's become an informative forum again. Besides where else can you get discussions about gauge one - except here of course.
Peter
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Post by ace on Apr 25, 2010 21:14:01 GMT
The closing stages
Well its been a while since I did any work on my loco so I decided to unwrap her today and I've make the decision to order a new boiler as I couldn't push myself to try and fix all the defects in the old one. Over the winter I read Chris Vines (How not to paint a locomotive) and so I started to strip the chassis down ready for painting and after investing in an air brush and practicing on some old metal sheets with some good results I think I'm ready to tackle the chassis. I started to paint the wheel's last year by hand but only managed to paint three of them some that will be the next thing finish the other 3 tonight. Must get cracking with the track layout too before her indoors has ideas on the garden for summer.
The G1 section appears to quiet so I think I'll post a few pics as I complete parts.
ace
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2010 8:36:01 GMT
Hi Ace and all other posters on this thread - I have just been bitten by the Gauge One bug and have started on the "Project" loco - I have joined G1MRA and have the book.
In your most recent post Ace you mentioned you might post a few pics - if you do get around to it I for one would be very interested to see them! ;D
I will buy a ready-made boiler (probably from Model Engineers Laser) as I am very new to silver soldering and would not trust my abilities yet in this respect.
I will almost certainly have some very stupid questions to ask on the build at a later date - so apologies in advance to all!!
Regards, A
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Post by ace on Aug 26, 2010 19:51:45 GMT
Hi alasdairm
Nice to see this topic gain some steam again... ha ha
I have just purchased a new replacement boiler for my G1 Project and bought it from Maccsteam ltd. what I got was a well made boiler complete with certificate and its stamped with the number on it. I meet Mike the owner when I collected it in person and he was kind enough to stop some diy and show me around his workshop and give me a few tips of the trade.
As for some photo's I'll will try to load some on to my web page for you to see. bare with me on that one.
As for the G1 Project I am thinking of making another one but changing a few things like body work etc, just for fun.
I think you'll find it challenging enough, I did as it was the first loco I had ever made.
Always happy to assist if need mate.
ace
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Post by ace on Apr 25, 2011 22:49:34 GMT
Well its about time I put this project on the completed list, so having now completed the paint job I began to put it back together to steam it up but found a problem with the lubricator regulator. The problem is that when I steamed her up the regulator valve for the lubricator was still allowing steam to vent through the lubricator. It appears that the spindle and the valve body are not seating right. I have made another one today where the banjo's are a tighter fit and the spindle has been remade as well, I will test this tomorrow to see if corrects the problem. One other thing is the Clack valve, it was making a ticking sound not sure about that one. ace
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 8:23:20 GMT
Hi ace - very nice looking loco indeed - I think you said you'd not done much painting of locos before, but your Project looks really good to me - well done. I have bought the Chris Vine book you refer to and have yet to read it - though I think I may be chicken and decide I like the "bare metal" look on mine to avoid painting it ;D My Project is stumbling along (runs on air, and I have a boiler [professionally made]). My tender was acquired second-hand - as I have put the axle-driven water pump on the loco I will need to change the plumbing a bit. I also have smokebox done and have started on its door. As yours looks so nice I have several questions for you....... I plan to use ceramic sheet as insulation/cladding/cleading on mine - what did you use for this? How have you fixed/secured the lubricator on yours? I would be very interested to know as this is my next "to do" item. Have you worked out a way of fitting a water gauge in the cab? If you can manage it I would love to see a pic of the back of your boiler and how you have fitted/plumbed things in. Hope the second steaming went well (yesterday I think you were hoping to give it another go?). All the best, Alasdair PS love your poppin engine vids - nice paint job on it as well
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Post by ace on Apr 26, 2011 10:11:49 GMT
Hi Alasdair
I will load up some photo's later today that may help explain the lubricator and pipe work.
As for the paint job.... confession time....
I stripped it down to the bare frames and then sprayed all the parts with high temperature satin black paint. The body work was then sprayed with a top coat of 'Plasticote' wood burner paint to give it that rustic look, seems to repel oily water OK too. The lettering are just transfers with some satin varnish on top to seal them.
ace
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 16:22:31 GMT
....As for the paint job.... confession time.... Confession surely not needed! Whatever looks good "works" - I'll almost certainly follow your idea as it looks very good to me. A
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2011 19:45:15 GMT
Hi ace
I agree with alasdair, loco looks great, congrats on a job well done.
Pete
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