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Post by drumkilbo on May 11, 2009 12:17:27 GMT
I for one would like to see them if you don't mind. Not being used to crowds where I come from I only took a few pics this year ! Oh and I wonder if the guy who designed the junction into Sainsbury's and the showground has ever driven through it...diabolical.
Ian.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 16:53:31 GMT
It would be nice to have the 1 - 10 or whatever it is on how stuff is judged - hint hint . But then the exhibitor would be able to objectively challenge someone's subjective judgement, and that wouldn't do at all, would it..... JB
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Post by drumkilbo on May 11, 2009 17:39:43 GMT
I actually prefer the gloss finish myself. I took this at Harrogate 2 or 3 years ago. Ian.
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Post by alanstepney on May 11, 2009 18:02:10 GMT
BTW what and where are the criteria for marking exhibited models? Is there a thread here somewhere? It would be nice to have the 1 - 10 or whatever it is on how stuff is judged - hint hint quote] There is no specific thread here in the subject of judging, but Model Engineer did have an article on it some years ago. Also, I believe I saw an article in EIM, telling how they judge models at "their" exhibitions. All I can say is that in every case where I have been involved, several people look at each model, rate it according to set criteria (usually giving marks from 1-10) and then work out the average from all the judges. I can also say that no matter what a judge or judges decide, someone will disagree!
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Post by Laurie_B on May 11, 2009 19:44:08 GMT
The show was excellent,and I also certainly liked the 'Brit' on the Bradford stand very much!The amount of detail was superb. The two locos which interested me even more were the two 'Duke of Gloucester's by J.Evans.(Should that have been D.Evans I wonder?) One was in 3-1/2" gauge,the other in 5",and,from what I could see,both had working British Caprotti valve gear.Some of the gearbox internals could be seen on the 3-1/2" loco. Incredible pieces of work.
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Post by northerner on May 11, 2009 19:53:23 GMT
Hello I was at the show over the weekend & would like to make a few comments. I showed a work colleague round the show on Saturday. He is not a model engineer & was amazed at the models his favourites were the Brit on the Bradford stand the Bentley engine plus the Dukes after I pointed them out to him. He was also surprised at the range of tools , materials etc available. It was an eyeopener seeing the show through his eyes we regulars sometimes take these shows for granted I think. The show has gone off the boil a bit in the last few years, but is still a good one. Also the only one in reasonable travelling distance for those of us in the north. Lastly the Brit Hereward the Wake was not in the Competition & I saw the backhead of the B17 & thought thats not a working boiler. regards John. PS My contribution was the part built Box Van & Brooke Cannon on the Cleveland Ass of ME stand.
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Post by ace on May 11, 2009 22:13:54 GMT
This is the forth year I have gone to Harrogate and I always enjoy looking at all the engineering marvels on display. Some are just beyond belief and I can only wish that my skills develop in time for me to display something that good. You never know you may just see one day a Gauge 1 Green Arrow on display with the words 'Built by ACE'. ;D ;D
ace
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 22:31:42 GMT
Hi Ace. Admirable aspiration sincerely expressed. To achieve your goals, only three words are important: persistence, persistence and persistence! JB Oh, and I forgot to mention: practice!
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Cecil Pagets 2-6-2 of 1908. Engine number 2299. Would make a fascinating model....
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Post by simonwass on May 11, 2009 22:34:55 GMT
Dennis Evans built them, we thought it was a J Evans who entered them? I'm going to be forever kicking myself for not getting a macro shot of the internals, very nice to see them and they even got a security wire to fit through them! I did read on the info with them that the 3 1/2" version hasnt steamed, shame if true but as it said, its too good to light a fire in. I didnt know he'd done a Std5 in between the 7 1/4" & 5" Dukes.
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Post by ace on May 11, 2009 22:43:31 GMT
Cheers JB, Persistence, practice and a new milling machine might help me on my way.
ace
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 22:51:14 GMT
Ace, I'm not so sure about the need for a new milling machine: don't forget that a decent lathe is a vertical milling machine in a recumbent position! JB
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Post by spamcanman on May 11, 2009 22:59:25 GMT
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Post by spamcanman on May 11, 2009 23:06:49 GMT
and here is a shot of the rebuilt Bullied again the workmanship was outstanding notice the bent pipe is in stainless steel.
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Post by drumkilbo on May 12, 2009 11:46:39 GMT
Lovely fabrication, even the webbing on the cylinder end covers, shame it will all be covered up.
Ian.
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Post by simonwass on May 12, 2009 12:04:41 GMT
and here is a shot of the rebuilt Bullied again the workmanship was outstanding notice the bent pipe is in stainless steel. I was told that the pipe is a fabrication. It was machined as a donut, sliced into 2 circular halves, milled out hollow, silver-soldered back together then the elbow piece cut out of the now hollow donut. You can see the silver-solder seam so I believe the stewards tale. When you know its John Heslop who is making it it is quite believable. I bet he could have bought a stainless elbow but why buy when you can make! Whats more difficult to get around is that the chimney and petticoat is a single machined lump, how did he hand machine the smoke-box seating under the chimney given the petticoat is sort of in the way, I looked for a join but couldn't find one. I'm sure it'll be in one of the mags when complete, he always does a good write-up, usually in EIM.
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Post by spamcanman on May 12, 2009 13:06:33 GMT
I was also told the bent pipe is a push fit into the other pipe for expansion reasons
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Post by drjohn on May 12, 2009 17:00:09 GMT
Makes me want to creep off into a corner and weep seeing the morning star and duke models - how I wish I could get a finish like that between insect infestations and Malaysian paint ------- and of course, Australian copper! DJ I do like the close coupled tender on the Morning Star (70021)
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Post by spamcanman on May 14, 2009 14:56:43 GMT
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Post by drumkilbo on May 14, 2009 17:43:47 GMT
Lovely, thanks Spamcanman.
Ian.
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Post by garethp on May 15, 2009 10:47:17 GMT
Great photos, how come I was there all day and more or less got chucked out at closing time and still managed to miss loads?
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