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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 20:03:46 GMT
Pic237 The assembly so far, there is a further job to do on the retaining plates which involves some 10BA studding and some lock plates to be made, I need to get the material for this so will have to wait for now. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 20:08:54 GMT
Pic238 All shocks now fitted, I have only fitted them loosely for now as everything will need taking apart later fir painting. Once that is done I'll measure each one to ensure they are the correct height. BTW the frames sitting on top are the loco main frames, bogie frames, doubler plates and trailing frames all laser cut. Well I did say I was starting to think about the loco...  Attachments:
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Post by spamcanman on Apr 15, 2011 20:12:26 GMT
out of interest where will you be running this fine loco when it's built ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 20:14:38 GMT
Pic239 Final picture for tonight with the body sitting on top. Not much more to do on the tender now, coupling hooks, steps, vacuum cylinders, reservoir tank and all piping, water gauge and valves . The final detail work of which knowing me I suspect will be a fair bit I'll do at the painting stage, More soon guys Pete Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 20:24:53 GMT
Hi Tony To be honest I'm not really sure yet although one place I would like to visit would be the GL5 home at Gilling especially if I get the coaches built as planned. I did join Harrow and Wembley for a sort while which is close to me so I may try there again, main requirement for me will be somewhere that's friendly. I plan to move away from London in next year or two so I guess I could go anywhere... Pete |
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Post by spamcanman on Apr 15, 2011 22:34:31 GMT
You'll be very welcome to try out my club we have probably the largest 5" raised track in the country and are in the process of extending it even further within the next couple of years. We also have a vast 5" and 71/4" ground level track and at least 3 members plus me of the GL5 group. While your building come down and have a run of my engine (Torquey Manor) your very welcome. www.nlsme.co.uk/ |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2011 22:56:19 GMT
I may well take you up on that offer Tony, well not to run your loco as right now i have no idea how to do such a thing but I'd certainly like to watch and learn. I didn't realise you belonged to NLSME, it happens to be one of my possible clubs to join. I know Colney Heath a little, many, many years ago I used to fly model aircraft when i belonged to what used to be called the Northwick Park flying club.
Perhaps next time your going down you'd be so kind as to PM me and if I'm let out to play I'll pop along to meet you and some fellow members.
Thanks
Pete
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Post by drjohn on Apr 16, 2011 13:49:42 GMT
Didn't know you did model aircraft as well Pete - you never by any chance ventured to the Watford club run by Don Baxter? Used to fly with him regularly. Maybe we met and didn't realise it.
DJ
Your shockabsorbers take my breath away - make me think it's time for another G & T.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2011 14:32:28 GMT
[/quote] Didn't know you did model aircraft as well Pete - you never by any chance ventured to the Watford club run by Don Baxter? Used to fly with him regularly. Maybe we met and didn't realise it. DJ [/quote] Hi DJ I've done most forms of modelling, planes, cars, boats etc , boats used to be my main interest ,in fact I'm a co-founder of the Luton model boat club, was the clubs first commodore back in the early 90's. I haven't flown at Watford and don't recognise the name but that doesn't mean I've not met at an event somewhere. I still fly now and then, all electric these days mainly warbirds although my real passion when it comes to flying models was gliders either thermal or slope. Thanks for the kind words on the shock absorbers, I'm happy I'm done with them for a while, I hate repetitive work, I'm always in to much of a hurry to do something new... Pete |
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Post by alanstepney on Apr 16, 2011 17:27:32 GMT
As we are drifting (?) off topic, I will just say that Northwick Park was a great place for train spotting with the Great Central and Metropolitan lines crossing the Midland line, and a decent footbridge over the latter.
Where Northwick Park hospital now is, was the remains of an army(?) hutted camp, and I gather the park was filled with tents during the war.
Last time I was in the park was for a scout do, a local Jamboree, called, in this case, the Kenboree.
As for Harrow club, I remember them at Headstone Ln, when they were laying track there.
It was due to some kind "old guys", who were willing to spend their time talking to and instructing a very young, yours truly, that I learned something about building models.
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Post by waggy on Apr 16, 2011 20:38:24 GMT
Hello all, Just to throw a spanner in the works, there's a photo of 60103 in this months "Steam World " magazine (May edition, they're a month in front!) showing the tender fitted with spoked wheels! Just goes to show they were all the same, apart from those that were different! Waggy.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 10:13:04 GMT
Hi waggy Thanks for the input, yes I'm aware of this, infact it was discussed here on this forum some weeks ago. I'm happy with things as they are though , there are three differences that I'm aware of between tender No.5640 and mine. Mine having disc wheels, front of sides curved and the beading, all of which to me make a better looking tender and one that better matches the loco which also has curved backs to the cab and beading.... Regards Pete |
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Post by drumkilbo on Apr 17, 2011 13:45:41 GMT
Also a photo of FS in black in Steam Railway mag [March edition] taken in 1946
Ian
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2011 14:47:28 GMT
Thanks Ian , I must pay more attention to the magazines out there... Pete |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 7:21:53 GMT
"DJ - Your shockabsorbers take my breath away - make me think it's time for another G & T. " Absolutely agree - awesome stuff Am following with great interest (and admiration). Regards, A |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 19:04:10 GMT
Hi guys Well I wasn't going to update till I had finished the hook and screw coupling but I've discovered I don't have the material for the coupling( nor can I find it) so will cover the hook today and also ask what you guys use for the coupling. Ok first things first, the hook Pic240 I started to follow Dons method for making the hook which basically starts off as a 4 1/2x1x3/16 flat BMS which you turn down in stages, the 3/16 dia shank first cutting away the access steel 3/4 at a time. As you can see in the picture I started this, chucked in the 4 jaw and turned down first the 9/64x7/32 spigot and then began turning the rest of the shank down to 3/16 ready for the spigot end to be threaded for 2BA over 9/16. The job has to then be removed and the next 3/4 section has its access steel hack sawed off ready for round two. It was while I was trying to set the job true again ( I had already centred the spigot end to make it easier to realign) that it dawned on me that it would be far quicker to make this item in two pieces as I did with the spring hangers and silver solder together. So I cut the machined part off, realigned the job ( same as before as its offset) in the 4 jaw, faced and centre drilled ready for the shank once done. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 19:06:51 GMT
Pic241 The parts ready for silver soldering, the hook piece is 1 3/8 long and the shank is 2 13/16 plus the 3mm spigot to fit the hook. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 19:12:24 GMT
Pic242 The parts brazed together, now some may say a single piece would be stronger, perhaps if the joint was weak but with good penetration it should be as strong if not stronger. However Don stats that Doncaster being a very powerful loco and able to haul large loads a more suitable arrangement should be used rather than the hook and coupling shackles. So this will only be for display purposes and I'll use a clevis type for actual running, well I don't want to distort my shackles now do I?... Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 19:16:41 GMT
Pic243 Next job was the two No.30 holes at 3/16 and 1/2 from the back of the hook on the shank centre line. The inner hole then has a 5/64 slot machined up at 90 degrees to the shank. I didn't have this size slot drill but did have a 2mm which is only 0.02mm bigger so this I used. The slot was chain drilled first. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2011 19:19:48 GMT
Pic244 Now to shape the hook, there are 3 main rads involved here so I cut these out of some brass shim first. I then plotted the rad positions from the drawing which is drawn twice model size. Here you can see the templates and that the hook shape has been scribed onto the job. Attachments:
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