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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 9:23:21 GMT
great progress Jim...the tender's certainly looking the part...
Pete
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Post by springcrocus on Jul 26, 2017 10:20:56 GMT
Hi Jim, Looking good! Don't you just love those laser center finders, once you have one you find all sorts of odd uses for them. Cheers Kerrin Like sending the cat bananas, chasing the spot around the workshop carpet.  Regards, Steve |
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Post by Jim on Jul 26, 2017 11:15:24 GMT
Ha ha got it in one Steve. It drives the cat nuts and for added fun I jiggle the little red dot on Margaret's wool basket..when she's not watching of course.  Jim |
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Post by Jim on Jul 26, 2017 11:17:44 GMT
great progress Jim...the tender's certainly looking the part... Pete Thanks Pete and Lisa's hint for how to reduce the size of the photo's is pure gold. Thanks for raising the problem. Jim. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2017 11:50:01 GMT
great progress Jim...the tender's certainly looking the part... Pete Thanks Pete and Lisa's hint for how to reduce the size of the photo's is pure gold. Thanks for raising the problem. Jim. haha..yes even if unintentionally....it has made me take a closer look at the textured primer that I used to represent a casting finish on the fabricated expansion brackets though. I might sand them down a little before top coating, they aren't a million miles away from a casting look, just needs feathering in a little...  Pete |
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Post by Jim on Jul 28, 2017 8:17:27 GMT
The rear of the tender is starting take shape. The next task will be to make the lamp irons and fit the centre hand rail.  Now after all that tapping of rivets a soothing ale is called for. Thanks for reminding me Paul.  |
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Post by Jim on Jul 29, 2017 13:16:37 GMT
Just a small update with the hand rails soldered in and the tender number plate in place and held with a nut and thread for easy removal when painting time comes.  Jim |
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Post by Jim on Aug 7, 2017 6:39:38 GMT
Going through some of my books I found this interesting drawing of Ramsbottom's self filling tender. It is in "Steam and the Locomotive" by Henry Evers' one of the Elementary Science series published by Collins in 1873. Just thought it might be of interest to the BR1 tender builders who are including the water pickups. Jim  |
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Post by 92220 on Aug 7, 2017 7:20:42 GMT
Pity BR couldn't work out something as simple as that!!!
Bob.
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Post by barlowworks on Aug 7, 2017 7:27:20 GMT
Doesn't look to have changed much in 100 years.
Mike
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Post by Jim on Aug 7, 2017 13:30:00 GMT
I must admit that I hadn't realised the concept of water troughs and taking on water while on the run had been around for so long. I thought it was all part of the 'modern' non stop express services.
Jim
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Post by Jim on Aug 8, 2017 12:48:41 GMT
Over the last two days I decided to redo my original idea for supporting the tender's rear deck with four more substantial (two a side) supporting lugs. The first task was to bend the lugs to the correct angle which I determined using my old dovetail/mitre square. The next step was to work out the amount to set the lugs back using an off cut of deck material to ensure the deck would be flush with the the top of the sides when in place. Once I' was happy with the set back the lug was clamped for soldering in place. For those interested I 'tin' both surfaces then, using a combination of soldering iron and micro torch sweat the parts together. The photo shows one support lug in place and the second ready for sweating.  Finally the two lugs in place.  A quick check and all is good so I can move on to the next stage of priming and final assembly. I've made the floor of the tender removable in case the need arises which it probably won't but being ever pessimistic I decided it was a good idea.  Jim. |
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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2017 7:36:18 GMT
Today I've done a trial fit of the water valves for the injectors. The water pick up dome will be removable to access the valves where they are easily reached from the driving trolley. The handle pointing forward will indicate valve open and closed when pointing across the tender. The valve rods will be shortened once the rear deck is in position and I can determine the best operating height. Filters have yet to be made and fitted too. I also fitted the studs that will secure the floor to the tender body. So far all is going well says he with fingers crossed.  Jim  |
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Post by barlowworks on Aug 9, 2017 7:54:53 GMT
All that trouble to keep your pinkies dry with the overflow pipe and you get them wet turning on the injectors. 🙂 Are you having a hand pump in the tender.
Mike
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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2017 8:46:05 GMT
Haha yes it's true I'm a wimp Mike and being here in Oz there could be a big hairy Huntsman at home under the deck and just waiting to drop onto an unwary hand.  As to the hand pump or lack of our boiler codes call for two ways of getting water into the boiler and our boiler inspector was more than happy with high and low pressure injectors. With 55 bespoke 5" gauge locos under his belt plus being the past president of the Australian Miniature Boiler Standards Committee I was happy with his advice. Jim. |
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Post by Cro on Aug 9, 2017 9:03:03 GMT
On this size engine injectors is all you need unless you have any real desire for a hand pump.
Keep going Jim, almost there!
Adam
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2017 9:03:33 GMT
good man...IIRC In Don's words on 'Doncaster', he said..'to fit a tender hand pump to such a fine model would be undignified' or something to that effect..however, I do believe that learning on a loco with a hand-pump fitted first, may be a prudent move...
Pete
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Post by barlowworks on Aug 9, 2017 11:04:32 GMT
I have a hand pump in the box of bits that came with the tender, with two injectors I should be ok but being a Yorkshireman, I do like my belt and braces. I do intend filling my boiler from cold with an electric pump in a water barrel with good old Sheffield water when away from my own track but as a learner I wonder if it is safer to have one if I get into trouble on a run.
Mike
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Post by nonort on Aug 9, 2017 11:05:48 GMT
Today I've done a trial fit of the water valves for the injectors. The water pick up dome will be removable to access the valves where they are easily reached from the driving trolley. The handle pointing forward will indicate valve open and closed when pointing across the tender. The valve rods will be shortened once the rear deck is in position and I can determine the best operating height. Filters have yet to be made and fitted too. I also fitted the studs that will secure the floor to the tender body. So far all is going well says he with fingers crossed. Jim I Dont know what type of filter you have in mind but experience has evolved in me using a proprietary filter on a length of silicone tube long enough for the filter to be fished out of the tender to be cleaned. Just a thought. |
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Post by Jim on Aug 9, 2017 11:22:35 GMT
That's an interesting idea, must give that some more thought. Thanks for the suggestion Nonort. On the topic of filters I had a piece of nice brass gauze set aside for the day when I would need to make the filters for the water valves then one of our club members helpfully pointed out that he'd had some similar gauze and found not a drop of water would go through it as it was designed to filter water out of fuel lines. Don't you just love it when someone tells you the thing you've saved for years is about as useful as tits on a bull for the purpose you had saved it for.  Jim |
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