BOXHILL by Martin Evans

[terrier060]

Good to see you working on it again. I have twinges about working on mine again. The Hunslet diversion has been going on far too long, but I hope it is nearing an end.
I am sure your enthusiasm will return when you start going forward again. It is horrible when one comes to a standstill. Mine is partly caused by the cab construction, as it is all made but I still can't decide whether to glue or solder it!
Ed

[mbrown]

Excellent news Julian. Your updates on this thread have been - and no doubt will be - a real inspiration.

... and I am a great fan of the Terriers ever since having a scratch firing turn on "Sutton" on the K&ESR in 1976!

Malcolm

[ettingtonliam]

I'm glad to hear that you are working on the Terrier again. Did you ever resolve the problems with your club over testing the boiler?

[jma1009]

PM to Richard.

Another surprisingly productive day with Stepney sorting out successfully one longstanding awkward job on part of the crank axle.

Nice sunny weather forecast for tomorrow so might skip the painting of the wheel sets in Jim Scott's IEG, and have a bash at the start of the final setting of the valves and valve gear.

Cheers,

Julian

[suctionhose]

Julian,
You're back! Good news...

[dscott]

Ours is 98% done with everything dismantled to get at the valve guides which were not quite a press fit.
Gunmetal to gunmetal.
Of course this was the second bit I made and got on well. Until the frames assembled needed 2 water holes drilling!
She does sit for several years when problems arise.
Get rid of first wife... Find another a year younger and have a Daughter...

Start to re draw most of our projects so that everything gets done (The Jessie/Bridget way)

The Dapol Terrier in O gauge comes onto the market in Isle of Wight shape and southern livery.
A daily reminder of what we should be doing.

Welcome back Julian.

David and Lily.

[jma1009]

Thank you for all the kind comments.

I made good progress yesterday.

Day in Cardiff today.

Tomorrow I intend to replace the temporary pins in the knuckle joints in the coupling rods with a proper arrangement.

[jma1009]

Haven't done much the last 4 weeks other than trying to find tooling (it's all there but I've forgotten where!), and have made a start today in sorting out the coupling rod knuckle joints.

All went very well, and first time I've used the Fobco Star for drilling metal in some 2 years. I don't know why I didn't properly finish off the knuckle joints some 10 years ago.

Cheers,
Julian

[Jim]

Great to see you making great progress on Boxhill Julian.

Jim

[smallbrother]

Hadn't noticed you were back and active until just now - very good news indeed. Unlike me, I have had my knee sorted out so I can do outdoor things again and I just can't get enough of it. Juliet will have to wait.

Yes strange and unfortunate times at that particular club. Plenty of other clubs around who will get the certificates sorted out I am sure.

Pete.

[jma1009]

Drilled then reamed 5/16" the tongues of the coupling rods this afternoon before the rugby - oh dear - the rugby not my drilling and reaming.

[jma1009]

Done the coupling rod knuckle pins this afternoon in silver steel, made the tongue joint bushes temporarily in brass to check everything still turned sweetly - which it does.

Should have done all this 10 years ago!

Slowly ticking off the list of outstanding jobs.

First time I've used the lathe for quite a few years, and relieved I can still turn stuff to tenths of thous. Bit of a confidence boost.

[midlandp4]

May 8, 2014 22:35:35 GMT jma1009 said:

i drilled the holes for the stays in the backhead yesterday evening (carefully!)

as the stays have to be silver soldered already to the inner firebox doorplate for propane (see pics 30th april) hopefully the need for the centres in the end will become apparent. you drill undersize first to see if the centres are central in the drilled hole and draw over if required. i got 10 out of the 15 spot on, with the remaining 5 needing just a little bit of drawing over. then opened out to No.22 for the 5/32" dia stay ends. they will get opened out to No.21 before silver soldering the backhead plus countersinking. exactly the same as fitting the firehole ring to the backhead, just more work involved and careful 'fitting'.

might get the inner firebox doorplate silver soldered to the inner firebox this weekend if i have time.

i would like to fit a scale Stroudley type firehole door which is quite a fiendish and fiddly device in miniature. it is a flap that opens inwards into the firebox hinged at the top, similar to the Webb firehole door. i might have a slight deviation and have a go at making a trial one out of brass to see if it is workable in miniature, before progressing further with silver soldering on the boiler. the Stroudley firehole door was quite a feature of the fullsize locos. i have never seen a working 5"g version before!

cheers,
julian



Hello Julian,


did you manage to construct a scale operating firedoor for your Terrier?  If so, would you be generous enough to share your results in the form of photos or plans?
I am currently building a Martin Evans 5” gauge A1 and would dearly love to replicate the prototype door. I have found some photos from video clips on YouTube which show the lever with ratchet with which the fireman opens and closes the door. But I cannot find details of the linkages which connect the base of the operating lever to the fire door. Or how and where the lever and ratchet is attached to the backhead. Details of the door hinges would be a bonus.  I live in Australia and am a bit too ancient to travel now, being in my late 70’s. So I have asked people at the NRM if someone could take some photos from the footplate of Boxhill. But it  is currently inaccessible due to renovations.
I have not been able to find an engineering drawing  of the Terrier firedoor at the NRM either. I have had no luck after contacting the Bluebell Railway or Kent & East Sussex Railway.
Any assistance you could give me would be gratefully appreciated.
Kind Regards,
Bruce Boldner

[uuu]

See 28 June 2014

Wilf

[jma1009]

Hi Brian,

I think as Wilf very helpfully suggested the date the page is 27. If you would like to send me a PM with your email address I will send you what I have.

Cheers,
Julian

[Cro]

Julian,

Any plans to work on the loco this year? Would love to see it progress and finished!

Adam

[uuu]

Yes - I'll second that. And I failed to mention in my last post - having searched for, and found, the firehole door - how brilliant it is! So it needs to see some action.

Wilf

[jma1009]

I am not too bothered at the moment, and as not a member of any club, and with the boiler lacking a club certificate, I’m in no hurry.

Though I do hope to get Stepney finished at some time. There isn’t much left to do.

Cheers,
Julian

[dscott]

Due to a mishap with the Nav Sat, and the Post Office issuing the KT20 area over a vast stretch of English countryside almost 50 years ago. We turned up at BOXHILL today and instead of walking round a model railway exhibition we walked round the hill, nice scenery once the RAIN had cleared. We looked at the stepping stones bridge later but they were hidden under water. So much so that 2 canoes slid over them with ease.
Back via another walk round Dorking Lidl and a Village called Shere near Guildford with muddy paths and a stream.

David and Lily.