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Post by ejparrott on Sept 5, 2012 12:23:47 GMT
Found a company at the Thornbury exhibition who said they could deliver in a week TIG welded or silver soldered? |
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Post by greensands on Sept 5, 2012 12:37:50 GMT
Hi - Yes, a very valid question. No problem with TIG welding for the longitudinal seams but what method will be used for the boiler tubes and bushes?
Regards Reg
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Post by ejparrott on Sept 6, 2012 12:24:33 GMT
The Maxitrak booklet (I think it's there's anyway) makes a not about welds being inspected for cracks. My interpretation is that I need to more vigiliant about the welds than with a steel boiler or comparable age!
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Post by springbok on Sept 7, 2012 2:43:26 GMT
I am building up my browny points again and am decorating the house, haveing spent a lot of dosh on boiler and castings. But on a very and I mean very cursory inspection all longitudinal seams a welded and bushes silver soldered and tapped. All CE marked plus paperwork, you name it. Better than being told after a 8 month wait oh will be the same again then I would suspect, a bit more again. Are these people like jobbing builders take on as much as poss and hope one will get finished and bring in some cash!! .When I had my Antique restoration business we would rather turn work down than get into this situation. They get the reputation of do not bother with them you will never get it done. Will keep everyone posted (once the emulsion and paint have dried and have not missed that tiny little bit over there). Bob  ;D  |
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Post by nonort on Sept 7, 2012 21:45:54 GMT
I believe that the Boilers that Maxitrak sell are made by a guy called Marco. I have seen his work first hand. He is fully coded up to do this type of welding. Anyone trying it at home without the knowledge of back purging and the right gas to use. The setting of of the TIG welder in the first place would challenge most. All the weld preps are different from the traditional. In my opinion it would be a fool to try it. And could not present the correct paper work to get it passed any boiler inspector worth his or her salt.
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Post by springbok on Sept 8, 2012 17:23:06 GMT
I absolutely agree with you nonort (strange name) the company who made this boiler makes hundreds of the big ones for industry. so this was a tiny little job for them, think took around 2 days. on and off and think one of the guyes took it on as a hobby job.
All fully CE you name it. AND I was quoted a 1.5 years delivery from a particular boiler maker. Someone in the west country should read this.
Bob
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Post by kwil on Sept 10, 2012 15:15:59 GMT
Any news about the delivery of this "quickly" made boiler or was it old stock?
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Post by springbok on Sept 12, 2012 1:59:25 GMT
Hi quil
Escaped into the workshop for a few mins, you could be correct as the dates on the paperwork are a few months ago, Once I have completed this dreaded decoration lark, now down to the middle floor, will investigate further but certainly all looks good.
Bob
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Post by toddy on Sept 29, 2012 10:18:06 GMT
Hi everyone Have been now waiting 8 months for my boiler and when I enquired was told it would be the same again. Found a company at the Thornbury exhibition who said they could deliver in a week, so guess what I have done. They also stock all the casting boiler bits you name it. They are called Hot Coals Tel 01291650977 E Mail kim_hotcoals@btinternet.com Bob [/ Hi Bob, Do they have a web-site? I've tried looking my self but no joy I'm afraid. Ron |
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Post by springbok on Sept 29, 2012 12:00:31 GMT
Hi Ron
He has not a web site as yet
Bob
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Post by toddy on Sept 29, 2012 13:19:14 GMT
Hi Bob,
Thanks for that.
Ron
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Post by ejparrott on Oct 3, 2012 17:06:12 GMT
The Maxitrak booklet (I think it's there's anyway) makes a not about welds being inspected for cracks. My interpretation is that I need to more vigiliant about the welds than with a steel boiler or comparable age! I'm still looking for this. We have in our possession a document from Maxitrak which clearly states something about the welds being crack inspected at hydraulic tests. Its not the PDF thats on the website...must look harder. |
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Post by RGR 60130 on Nov 8, 2012 16:07:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2012 16:41:29 GMT
yes I saw that Reg... i wonder if they will be more successful then Modelworks... hope so.. good luck to them i say... Pete |
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Post by springbok on Nov 9, 2012 8:18:32 GMT
Yes I do think they will make a go of it, Jay came round to my workshop to deliver items but also brought the front bogie to compare it with mine have to say extremly impressed with quality, workmanship and used best materials.
All I can say is all power to there elbow.
Bob
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Post by smallbrother on Nov 9, 2012 10:10:33 GMT
I bought a whistle from Kim at Hot-Coals recently and he showed me the B1's in progress. I have used one of his suppliers and I am sure quality will not be a problem.
It is also nice to see a model engineering business start in this part of the world - the rest are so far away.
The workshops are well worth a visit - part of a splendid craft centre in the lovely Usk Valley - coffee and cake very nice indeed.
Pete.
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Post by greensands on Nov 10, 2012 15:45:18 GMT
As a matter of interest, where are Hotcoals based? Could not see the postal address on their website.
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Post by gwrfan on Nov 10, 2012 18:38:26 GMT
As a matter of interest, where are Hotcoals based? Could not see the postal address on their website. Regards Llangwm, Usk, Monmouthshire. Tel: 07855 868314 Just received an item from Kim! |
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Post by freelancejohn on Nov 11, 2012 0:25:43 GMT
I believe that the Boilers that Maxitrak sell are made by a guy called Marco. I have seen his work first hand. He is fully coded up to do this type of welding. Anyone trying it at home without the knowledge of back purging and the right gas to use. The setting of of the TIG welder in the first place would challenge most. All the weld preps are different from the traditional. In my opinion it would be a fool to try it. And could not present the correct paper work to get it passed any boiler inspector worth his or her salt. |
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Post by freelancejohn on Nov 11, 2012 0:38:33 GMT
I believe that the Boilers that Maxitrak sell are made by a guy called Marco. I have seen his work first hand. He is fully coded up to do this type of welding. Anyone trying it at home without the knowledge of back purging and the right gas to use. The setting of of the TIG welder in the first place would challenge most. All the weld preps are different from the traditional. In my opinion it would be a fool to try it. And could not present the correct paper work to get it passed any boiler inspector worth his or her salt. Hi Guys taking you back a bit yes you are quite right. Dont try this at home. I have worked with Marco & he is independent of Maxitrak. His Co is specialist, dealing with thin non ferrous TIG welding to MoD standard & above. His first breack into this world was met with dissaproval as the build could not be seen. As a boiler inspector I sent back a MoKent boiler size requesting internal proof of build. After two or three visits over the past 2 yrs he & his crew have progressed to producing some of the top quality pressure genorators I've seen. Try his site & deal direct. |
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