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[greasemonkey]

Hi All
I was flicking through the various cataloges last night starting to think about my shopping list for the Midlands show and it set me thinking about model designs. The range of models now available for us to build is huge and getting bigger but what designs are missing that people would like to see. Personally I would lie a J94 or a BR standard 4 2-6-0 in either 5 or 7.25" gauge.
Andy

[Peter W.]

If memory serves me right (!), the old Clarksons used to
have drawings & castings for a 3.5" B1 (amongst many
other desirable locos).

Wish there was still a 3.5" B1 today -- a 5" B1 is very
very good, but a bit big for me.

[steammadman]

Peter w,
I may be able to step in as your guardian angel, note my wings , oh ,
and my halo! ! ! ! !

i just happen to have a set of drawings for a 3 1/2 " g B1.
as in their jun 1972 cat

[steammadman]

Greasmonkey,
My old (sadly departed) freind and doncaster works colleague
Mr DON YOUNG marketed drawings for a BR class 2 in 5" gauge
in the 1980's.
I have a 1984 cat to hand listing most of his designs

[Peter W.]

Steammadman, your wings & halo noted, I've even
Exalted you -- what more could you want ?

P.S. Don Young's 5" BR Class 2 still available from Reeves.

P.P.S. Will send you a "message".

[3405jimmy]

No, more 0-4-0’s in 7.25 please.

N&W Class A and J
NYC Niagara

[Richardw]

Greasemonkey

I believe Doug Hewson is intending to do the BR4 2-6-0 in 5" to complement the 2-6-4T and 4-6-0 that he already does as many of the parts are common.

I don't know how far along he is with it but I think there are some people out there building 2-6-0's already, or at least the bits they can do from the existing drawings etc.

Regards
Richard

[Tel]

Well I'd like a set of drawings for this crittur - should be quite impressive in 7.25"

[gugger]

Peter W.

Your wish to build a B1 from Clarkson drawings and castings makes me smile. Do you know of anybody that has built such a model to the Clarkson design?
Well, I did. When I did receive the drawings and castings back in 1980 I got a shock seeing the quality of both items. However, with a solid engineering background I was determined to build that engine. That project became a nightmare over quite a number of years.
During this years I bought the drawings of the Martin Evans design for the 5” gauge version of the B1 for scaling down and also did a lot of redesign work. Some of the castings ended right away as scrap, others I had to repair.
My advice, if you like to build the B1, get the Martin Evans drawings and work without
castings.
To see my 3½” B1 look in s89.photobucket.com/albums/k206/gugger 2006/
Walter

[Peter W.]

Gugger,
Thanks for your feedback, and sorry to hear about your
difficulties. I have seen one almost finished 3.5" B1, and
also a 3.5" L1, but must admit that I think they had their
problems !
It's just that the Clarkson version was the only one in
that gauge...

[gugger]

Peter,
There is a mistake in the given photobucket address.

Correct: s89.photobucket.com/albums/k206/Gugger_2006/

[chris vine]

Hi Walter,

Lovely models. You have got so many of the detail on the B1 correct which Martin Evans got so wrong.

Chris.

[steammadman]

B1 DRAWINGS!!
Why do model engineers today spend so much time picking the spots off
published designs ?.
I anyone were to take any notice of all the grices then we would NEVER
see any completed miniature loco's or traction engines,
Over the 50 or so years i have spent in this hobby i have built a fair
number of miniatures,(they are not models,Triang & co , make models,
those are the words of the late LBSC , NOT ME.)
over those numerous years , from J.N.Maskelyn to present day designers
have all had their designs rubished or criticized for one reason or another
YET none of the critics EVER ,either publish a design of their own,or, publish
an amendment of their own.
As it has been said many times ,"to criticise is an easy art ,but to amend and
correct , with success is a difficult art".

And now to castings, No one is forced into buying castings,if you do ,don't
moan all over England, go back to the supplier, he is the man who needs to
know, so that he can put pressure on the foundy owners to replace bad or
other faulty castings.

To those who do moan i say get on and correct any errors and other short
comings, OR DESIGN YOUR OWN and then you have ONLY YOURSELF TO
BLAME FOR ANY PROBLEMS YOU INCURR.


And now i'll get off my soapbox and go into the shed and sort out a
problem on a design of my own, and then kick my own "arse" if it
.don't work.
At my age time in the shed is more important ,than time moaning ! ! ! ! ! !

[Laurie_B]

richardw said:

Greasemonkey

I believe Doug Hewson is intending to do the BR4 2-6-0 in 5" to complement the 2-6-4T and 4-6-0 that he already does as many of the parts are common.

My shopping list?Too many to mention!Though some of the smaller BR Standard locos would be nice,apart from the Class 2 which has already been mentioned,and that I am building.

I believe Doug Hewson does intend producing a 76xxx class in 5" gauge.Using parts from this loco,and the other castings available,it should then be possible to construct 77xxx (tender) and 82xxx (tank) locos,the boilers for which were based closely on those of the GWR large prairie class.

[Myford Matt]

I find it extraordinary that there are no designs for GWR Castles - that would go right to the top of my list. I remember the first time I saw Caerphilly Castle in the (wonderful) Swindon steam museum and thinking - now that's what I call a locomotive. Just sat and looked.

I am quite certain that whatever I make, a GWR Castle will be the jewel in my crown. Might take 20 years, but I don't mind :-)

Perhaps those nice chaps at Polly will get there act together...

MM

[Shawki Shlemon]

I agree Castle will be a great model to built. The king is only a super Castle and is available. Why 20 years? May be a lot of hours , but I built one in 2 years admittedly I am retired and lived in the workshop for that period, more or less .see my website .

[Jason]

Hi Shawki

Just been looking at your Web site, and all I can say is WOW !!. What a collection you have built over the years. If I achieve 10% of what you have done I will die a happy man, and I am only 36 !!

Regards,

Jason

[dinmoremanor]

Shawki, that is a REDICULOUS number of models you have made over the years, totally amazing, I take my hat off to you, keep up the good work! Cheers, Mike

[Myford Matt]

Hi Shawki

Well if it's only a super Castle then it shouldn't be too hard for someone to draw up plans - were yours from GLR/Kennions?

I'm not suggesting it will take 20 years, just prepared to take my time to do it properly. Obviously if you have no distractions and live next to a lathe it will save time. I have to work so...

Regards

Matt

[Laurie_B]

Considering there are designs for a GWR King in 3-1/2",5" and 7-1/4" gauges (and probably more besides!) it is surprising the Castle has been so overlooked in comparison.After all,it's Pete Waterman's favourite class of loco!
The only published design for a Castle in 5" gauge I have ever heard of is from a Mr.Peter Rich.Drawings and some castings are available from www.churchwardlocos.com/index.html as well as for other GW locos.