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Post by simplyloco on Nov 14, 2018 22:00:33 GMT
Cab End AssemblyI know that you have all seen this before, but this time it really is for keeps. Much to my surprise and delight, the panels/parts are connecting as intended! I will touch in the shiny bits with the satin black paint afterwards, and some airbrush fine detail work is needed on connectors etc.. An improvement:the manifold had two square flanges, and two threaded couplings. It was pointed out to me that as I'd taken the trouble to fit two scale flanges for the blower and gauge, why didn't I do the same for the injector and whistle valve? I thought that was a good idea, so I'm modifying the manifold as we speak. The flange in the photo is only a dummy to check the appearance. I like the lagging! Quite exciting really...  John  DSC00598 by inkaboat, on Flickr  DSC00596 by inkaboat, on Flickr The front end will have a plain boiler band to cover the CSK screws.  DSC00597 by inkaboat, on Flickr
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 15, 2018 17:12:32 GMT
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Post by Midland on Nov 15, 2018 18:11:42 GMT
Simplyloco
Just a thought, Have you retained enough mixed up paint for the tender? What a wicked thought!! Back head looking great of course,
D
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 15, 2018 18:29:38 GMT
Simplyloco Just a thought, Have you retained enough mixed up paint for the tender? What a wicked thought!! Back head looking great of course, D Yes!!! |
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 16, 2018 17:30:35 GMT
That's enough for today. Quite an improvement. I'll solder it up and lag it tomorrow. John  DSC00615 by inkaboat, on Flickr |
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 22, 2018 22:30:47 GMT
David is a great motivator: so many projects and associated interesting tasks! Following our meander this morning I resolved today to get cracking on the Brit. The loco is very nearly complete now, but the running board colour is perplexing. The prototype is apparently green, but to me it looks me slightly ridiculous given the black blinkers and the abrupt transition to black front plates. Opinions please? John PS. The cab still isn't attached properly...  DSC00625 by inkaboat, on Flickr  DSC00623 by inkaboat, on Flickr |
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Post by dhamblin on Nov 22, 2018 23:22:25 GMT
What source are you using that states green running boards? Only ask as I'm looking at a colour photo of 70014 'Iron Duke' at Stewarts Lane and, from an admittedly shallow angle, they do look black.
It is the most awkward position to find a decent colour photo of as the light tends to reflect off it at those angles!
Regards,
Dan
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 23, 2018 8:40:58 GMT
What source are you using that states green running boards? Only ask as I'm looking at a colour photo of 70014 'Iron Duke' at Stewarts Lane and, from an admittedly shallow angle, they do look black. It is the most awkward position to find a decent colour photo of as the light tends to reflect off it at those angles! Regards, Dan Hi Dan This pic is pretty clear, but it doesn't stop it looking odd! John www.fraserker.com/britannia/orrells/img_0854.htmland this one. www.fraserker.com/britannia/orrells/img_0853.html |
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Post by Jim on Nov 23, 2018 20:55:39 GMT
Locomotive liveries are always a bit contentious which is why I did what John has done and based Boadicea's livery on photographs taken in her days at Stratford. Another valuable source of information on Britannia's is David Hey's site:
Jim
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Post by JonL on Nov 24, 2018 13:56:49 GMT
I guess by the time they had gone through a few repaints at different engine sheds the colour schemes would be very different from loco to loco!
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Post by dhamblin on Nov 24, 2018 15:55:35 GMT
Sorry for not replying sooner - been doing a bit more digging in my various Britannia books. It seems there is a mix of green and black topped running boards, although in some cases the black could well be where that surface isn't cleaned fully because it is a walking route for cleaning the boiler cladding.
One of the photos though of 70004 in its exhibition finish taken prior to going into the Festival of Britain display does show the running board tops. The photo is in black and white, but the running board is distinctly paler than the smoke deflectors and more consistent with the boiler cladding. So on balance green would appear to be correct for that engine when built.
It does seem an odd choice by the livery designers though.
Regards,
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 24, 2018 16:29:30 GMT
SNIP It does seem an odd choice by the livery designers though. Regards, Dan Hi Dan I'm still in two minds about it, as in my view, the Brit won't be quite so pretty if I keep the running boards green!  John |
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Post by delaplume on Nov 24, 2018 19:24:01 GMT
Hello all----------John, do please read the following in a nice and pleasant manner as that's how it was typed--OK ??}------I think it's looking very smart indeed and a credit to the time and effort that we all know has gone into it......When the 12" scale loco was at Bridgnorth I was part of a team that worked on it at week-ends.....I have vivid memories of helping to align those cannon axleboxes, and was alongside the late Bob Riddles at the regulator when it was allowed to move under it's own steam in the coal yard....I look forwards to seeing photos of yours hauling passengers on the Southampton track...
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Post by keith1500 on Nov 24, 2018 19:39:14 GMT
How about assessing the loco with the smoke deflectors in place. The photo of Britannia looks ok and I think is due to the smoke deflectors breaking up the contrast between the black front and the green top.
Keith
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 24, 2018 19:44:51 GMT
How about assessing the loco with the smoke deflectors in place. The photo of Britannia looks ok and I think is due to the smoke deflectors breaking up the contrast between the black front and the green top. Keith Good advice. I'll do that before I do anything silly! John |
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Post by Midland on Nov 24, 2018 20:48:36 GMT
Dear Simplyloco (as if I do not know who you are!!!)
In Midland days at St Pancras there was a loco superintendent who painted 'his' locos the way he thought they ought to look. It was called the Weatherburn style and was gorgeous. So forget about what people might say, do what you think is right for your loco and damn the torpedoes.
and on another subject, the plonker built the tender too big!!!! Won't fit the box.
D (Midland)
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 24, 2018 22:17:16 GMT
Dear Simplyloco (as if I do not know who you are!!!) SNIP and on another subject, the plonker built the tender too big!!!! Won't fit the box. D (Midland) As we all know, the extra inch makes all the difference... |
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Post by delaplume on Nov 25, 2018 1:21:32 GMT
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Post by delaplume on Nov 25, 2018 1:26:11 GMT
Here's the rest of them}-------http://www.fraserker.com/britannia/orrells/index2.html
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Post by JonL on Nov 25, 2018 10:32:25 GMT
That photo does indicate to me how bang on you managed to get the lining.
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