oldnorton
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Post by oldnorton on Nov 25, 2018 11:34:07 GMT
Super Orrells photo set, thank you for that! and the link to the David Heys collection.
I have now taken a deeper interest in the various Britannia threads. I currently have a Modelworks in 7,000 parts and those images might help me getting it looking a little bit better as it comes back together.
Now, I have read that Running Boards are only found on cars, and locomotives have Side Platforms. Any other views on the terms used in the 1950s?
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Post by simplyloco on Nov 25, 2018 12:09:17 GMT
Yours was the 1000th post on this thread! Many thanks
No more for 8 days: We are at Gatport Airwick!
John
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Post by Jim on Nov 25, 2018 12:15:35 GMT
Super Orrells photo set, thank you for that! and the link to the David Heys collection. I have now taken a deeper interest in the various Britannia threads. I currently have a Modelworks in 7,000 parts and those images might help me getting it looking a little bit better as it comes back together. Now, I have read that Running Boards are only found on cars, and locomotives have Side Platforms. Any other views on the terms used in the 1950s? I've heard 'running plates' used too, which is a term I tend to use. As long as you know what you're talking about is all that matters in my view. 
Jim
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Post by ettingtonliam on Nov 25, 2018 13:18:32 GMT
A quick look at several autobiographies from chaps who designed or built full sized steam locos 'back in the day' seems to suggest that 'running plate' was the generally used term.
I shall stick to 'running board' for my Locomotion model for the simple reason that they are wooden boards -----
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 15:04:03 GMT
Don in his 'Doncaster' drawings calls them 'running boards' too, so I guess they must have been called that in some circles seeing he worked on these beasts...  |
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Post by delaplume on Nov 25, 2018 17:10:09 GMT
I think it all comes down to which part of the UK / world your railway experiences are gained.........At the SVR back when I first started there it was Running Boards....Also you had on a locomotive-type boiler the inner and outer backheads.. BUT I have heard / read the outer backhead referred to as the door plate !!.....
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Post by ettingtonliam on Nov 25, 2018 17:35:43 GMT
I've just come across H. Holcroft's use of the term 'Side Platform' to describe them, which may be GWR's terminology.
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Midland
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Post by Midland on Nov 25, 2018 20:49:55 GMT
Simplyloco, just had a thought, I reckon he has been let out of prison!
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Midland
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Post by Midland on Nov 29, 2018 9:21:03 GMT
Becoming frustrated as I found lovely picture taken from above of a Britannia with green running plates or boards. Wanted to put it up but can't find it now!!! But they were green at least for some of their lives.
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barlowworks
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Post by barlowworks on Nov 29, 2018 11:04:05 GMT
There are a couple of lovely photos of Britannia with the running boards painted green in the Orrells photo gallery (www.fraserker.com/britannia/orrells/index2.html). Also I have seen a photo of Oliver Cromwell with green running boards but its not very clear, being shot nearly level with the top of the running boards. That being said I have found a photo of Britannia taken from the cab and there looks to be a black running board under the grime ad there is at least one well known 5 inch gauge model of William Shakespeare with black running boards. Not very conclusive I know but at the end of the day its your loco so paint it what you think is best.
Mike
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Post by delaplume on Nov 29, 2018 16:44:15 GMT
There are a couple of lovely photos of Britannia with the running boards painted green in the Orrells photo gallery (www.fraserker.com/britannia/orrells/index2.html). Also I have seen a photo of Oliver Cromwell with green running boards but its not very clear, being shot nearly level with the top of the running boards. That being said I have found a photo of Britannia taken from the cab and there looks to be a black running board under the grime ad there is at least one well known 5 inch gauge model of William Shakespeare with black running boards. Not very conclusive I know but at the end of the day its your loco so paint it what you think is best. Mike Hi Mike-----You must have missed it but I posted the Orrells link earlier on......No matter, John's obviously seen them now judging by the "like" he's put in.. Personally I like the look of a glossy, Black all over loco........Seems to give it a certain amount of "Presence" I feel......However the Brunswick Green or it's derivatives reminds me of the GWR and that's OK too......Did Brits. ever pull The Red Dragon up through Reading at any time ??.... |
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barlowworks
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Post by barlowworks on Nov 29, 2018 22:39:19 GMT
My own project, 70018 Flying Dutchman carried the Red Dragon headboard on many occasions, but she was a western region loco in the beginning so no surprise really.
All I need to do now is source a Red Dragon headboard.
Mike
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Post by delaplume on Nov 29, 2018 23:11:03 GMT
My own project, 70018 Flying Dutchman carried the Red Dragon headboard on many occasions, but she was a western region loco in the beginning so no surprise really. All I need to do now is source a Red Dragon headboard. Mike Hello everyone, Mike, Maybe like this ??........ It's part of a complete Dianne Carney 5" gauge Castle set which I'll be putting up for sale soon.... However as you are a fellow Forum fanatic I'm prepared to separate it out for you..... As you can see it's New, Old Stock and this is only the second time it's been out of it's protective wrapping........... if you want to have a chat then PM me an e-mail address......OK ??  |
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Post by simplyloco on Dec 4, 2018 13:28:17 GMT
Lest We Forget!If you look closely at the base of the firebox, you will see the elegant little stainless bracket that keeps the boiler attached to the grate. If you forget to fit it before assembly you will find the boiler falling off the rotating stand the first time that you reposition your loco... After careful disassembly trying to avoid scratching the firebox wrapper, the loco is now safe! John  WP_20181204_12_52_15_Pro[1] by inkaboat, on Flickr
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JonL
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Post by JonL on Dec 4, 2018 18:21:13 GMT
Blimey, I hope no harm was done!
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Post by delaplume on Dec 4, 2018 19:34:21 GMT
Lest We Forget!If you look closely at the base of the firebox, you will see the elegant little stainless bracket that keeps the boiler attached to the grate. If you forget to fit it before assembly you will find the boiler falling off the rotating stand the first time that you reposition your loco... After careful disassembly trying to avoid scratching the firebox wrapper, the loco is now safe! John WP_20181204_12_52_15_Pro[1] by inkaboat, on Flickr Hello John, Thanks for posting this subject and that very clear photo........As you are aware I'm currently in Build Mode with my GWR 4-6-2 Pacific The Great Bear having spent some 4 years in total at the design stage......... And I have to admit I hadn't given that scenario any thought at all !!.....proof that forum membership can be beneficial no matter what your interests might be... Yes I'll need to put it on the turnover stand eventually so your "Heads-Up" has come at a most opportune moment.... So thanks once again Alan R |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 21:49:21 GMT
Hi John
You're braver than I sir...I don't think that I would trust those alloy brackets. I certainly wouldn't tilt it any more than what the picture shows, that's an awful lot of top-heavy weight sitting there.
Pete
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Post by Jim on Dec 5, 2018 1:21:22 GMT
I'd agree with Pete. I'm not much in favour of tipping locos and wouldn't dream of tipping a 5" G loco such as the Britannia or Flying Scotsman. Everything on a locomotive is meant to sit on the frames not hang from them but then that's just my view.
Jim
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Midland
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Post by Midland on Dec 5, 2018 7:05:35 GMT
My locos lie om their side on a soft bed of foam and a couple of old duvets.
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