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Post by ilvaporista on Feb 4, 2012 20:24:55 GMT
Worth the wait for the pictures, thanks for posting those and all the best for the build.
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Post by Jim on Feb 4, 2012 20:49:35 GMT
As yet another Britannia builder I must agree with Superseven Geoff. You are doing a great job building a lovely model of an overlooked class. Look forward to seeing more photos of your model. Jim
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 8, 2012 17:27:50 GMT
Hi The smokebox tube was initially a piece of steam pipe of larger diameter and with the aid of a Greek gentleman Pi X d, a piece was cut out then squeezed together and welded. Here it is about to be turned. Geoff (Carlisle Attachments:
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 8, 2012 18:02:19 GMT
Here it is with the spider inserted and finish turned. Geoff(Carlisle) Attachments:
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Post by Laurie_B on Feb 8, 2012 19:48:46 GMT
Very interesting project Geoff,and looking good so far. As 'superseven' says-it's good to see someone building a Clan. I remember seeing the last five on a rail tour to Carlisle in 1964 and they were very nice locos.You may be aware there is a full-size 'new-build' Clan under way. 72010-hengist.org/index.htmlKeep us posted on progress.
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 9, 2012 19:53:43 GMT
HI ,here's a Clan driving wheel being turned, same size as a britannia. The wheel was bored for the axle then mounted on a spigot located in the hollow mandrel of the lathe. then two pieces of melamine were used as backing then two bolts to hold it all together on the faceplate. this prevents any chatter when powered cutting the tread, radius and flange all in one go. I could never do this with my Myford as i used to turn the faceplate round by hand to prevent chatter. But its still a dirty job. Geoff (Carlisle) Attachments:
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 16, 2012 16:06:42 GMT
Hi all, as my Enterprise is on the bench getting a ( light casual), to get it ready for the summer running. work on the Clan has come to a full stop. But in order to keep this thead alive i'm showing a photo of my V3 Enterprise which took 13 years to build , well i did have to go to work! It carries a 52A shed plate as it was allocated to Gateshead towards the end of its life. The photo my be of interest to all the Enterprise builders. Geoff (Carlisle). Attachments:
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Post by chiptim on Feb 17, 2012 9:46:32 GMT
The V3 Enterprise looks stunning Geoff as does the Clan so far. I like the spider support in the smokebox tube - never seen that before. Tim
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 18, 2012 15:41:27 GMT
Hi,further to Enterprise getting a light casual on the bench.Here it shows getting built up with only the cylinder drain cocks to fit and link up which can be a pain. I spray painted the smokebox with high temperature matt enamel, which suits the loco. But when it comes to spraying the Clan's smokebox i think i will do the same as Jim's Boadicea in Canberra otherwise it might look odd with gloss smoke deflectors and a silvery- gray smokebox. Geoff (Carlisle). Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2012 22:40:03 GMT
when it comes to spraying the Clan's smokebox i think i will do the same as Jim's Boadicea in Canberra otherwise it might look odd with gloss smoke deflectors and a silvery- gray smokebox. This matt grey smokebox lark seems to be a preservation era thing. As far as I'm aware, smokeboxes were always painted gloss black in the days of working steam, and they just went naturally dull with the heat, being livened up (if they were lucky) with an oily rag. The full size 70000 Britannia has gained a matt grey smokebox on its recent repaint, and with the glossy black smoke deflectors, it looks awful! (IMHO, anyway).
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 28, 2012 17:13:56 GMT
Hi all, another reason why there is no work being done on the Clan,what started out as a 'light casual' is more of a general. The filth between frames was amazing,i think we tend to over oil them. Geoff (Carlisle). Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 29, 2012 11:22:33 GMT
Geoff, I don't know if you've seen it, but there is an excellent article on the Clans in the March issue of 'Steam days' magazine. It seems they were fine engines as long as they were used as intended, and not put onto class 7 duties, which all too often was the case. The author concludes that their reputation as under-performers was undeserved.
Alas I never saw one, although I did see plenty of 'Brits' in everday service.
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Mar 2, 2012 17:06:03 GMT
Hi Superseven. Thanks for the information, so i went to W.H. Smiths this afternoon and got a copy,the content seems well loaded with Clans although i haven't read it yet. Incidently 70000 is coming into Carlisle to-morrow (Sat) so i will be going along to photo nuts, bolts and rivets and the driver is a mate of mine working along side him before i retired.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Mar 12, 2012 16:51:36 GMT
Early days in the workshop showing the unfinished V3 and the start of the B.R. Clan, the Britannia frames having previously been altered. Geoff (Carlisle). Attachments:
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Mar 13, 2012 18:13:35 GMT
Hi all, It appears that I have a problem, the smokebox door hinges made for the Britannia. With the Britannia smokebox door ring, it is broader than the Clan so the hinge is too big for the Clan, anyone with ideas? Geoff (Carlisle). Attachments:
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Post by Jim on Mar 13, 2012 19:53:39 GMT
Hi Geoff, I don't know if this is of any help but I had to fabricate the hinges for Boadicea's smoke box door as they, along with the smokebox door and ring were among the missing parts. To get the hinges to fit I had to bend them to the curve of the door and raise slightly the end supports that the hinge pin goes through. Jim
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Mar 14, 2012 14:22:00 GMT
Hi Jim . Thank you for your input as I'v been looking at your smokebox door for some time to see how you did it. Things are rather tight on the Clan roomwise. So to start with i placed the smokebox back in the lathe and turned more metal off the 45 degs angle which made the door go further back, then with a tap with the mallet the hinge bedded down to a nice fit. The way it was having too much radius to be able to fit the hinge , once again many thanks. Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by Jim on Mar 14, 2012 21:49:25 GMT
Glad to be of help Geoff. It's very satisfying isn't it when everything comes together and things click into place. Keep up the good work. Jim
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Post by jackrae on Mar 15, 2012 22:23:25 GMT
Should the hinge pin bores be slotted to permit the door dart to pull the door closed in a parallel manner rather than pivoting about a single hinge-pin centre. Geoff, PM sent with an image. jack
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Mar 30, 2012 21:30:29 GMT
Hi all, I'm having difficulty in setting up the outside cylinder drain cocks on my Enterprise loco which are pure rubbish. A couple of years ago i done away with the inside cylinder drain cocks, and turned a couple of simple ones in the lathe. They were nothing more than an 1/8" s s ball over a hole, the idea being that water would float the ball and escape until the steam comes on and then they close. They must work because the loco never hydraulics and locks and no droplets up the chimney. Geoff (Carlisle). Attachments:
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