barlowworks
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Post by barlowworks on Dec 22, 2020 18:26:22 GMT
Merry Christmas Geoff from another Britannia builder ( I know yours is a Clan but you know what I mean). Stay safe in the new year.
Mike
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Jan 8, 2021 14:07:39 GMT
Hi guys , well i'm back on the trail regarding a belt sander but what i'm not sure about is that the ones you see on this laptop have for the won't that I call sandpaper and used for wood. Well is these machines the same used for metal, do your best.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by don9f on Jan 8, 2021 17:05:29 GMT
Hi Geoff, I use this one and as it states in the description, it can be used on various different materials. I only really use it with metal (steel, brass) and it works just fine and I think the belt/disc is Aluminium Oxide abrasive. Cheers Don
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Post by uuu on Jan 8, 2021 17:26:28 GMT
I have a very similar one from Axminster. I mostly use the little table (it moves) on the long belt.
Wilf
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Post by simplyloco on Jan 8, 2021 17:42:13 GMT
Hi Geoff, I use this one and as it states in the description, it can be used on various different materials. I only really use it with metal (steel, brass) and it works just fine and I think the belt/disc is Aluminium Oxide abrasive. Cheers Don I've had the same one for about 20 years now. It is my filing/tool sharpening machine!
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Post by jackrae on Jan 8, 2021 18:22:44 GMT
Hi Geoff, How's it going. Once you get a belt sander you'll be in sanding/filing heaven. Make sure you get a selection of belt grits and ensure you fit them on in the correct run direction - if you don't then there's a jolt every time the belt joint passes the job It's also essential to get a belt cleaning block as the belt tends to become blocked with sanding particles. They are basically a rubber block and work amazingly well. An example is shown here www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-218490-Sanding-Cleaning-Block/dp/B00GY4F3RQJack
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 4, 2021 19:38:32 GMT
Hi all, when I was an engine cleaner (55yrs) ago at Carlisle (Kingmoor), all we ever cleaned were Britannia's as we had 49 allocated there. The question is that I see our size of B.R.loco's with a red band painted on the tender axle-box which were painted yellow, now I know the story behind the yellow. I might be wrong here but all I ever cleaned were Britannia tenders and axle-box covers and I can't remember any red lines then.
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Post by JonL on Feb 4, 2021 21:09:21 GMT
The red line means "Use Lithium Grease Only" I believe? Maybe it wasn't right from the start.
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Post by dhamblin on Feb 5, 2021 21:53:29 GMT
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Post by mbrown on Feb 5, 2021 23:54:52 GMT
In the RCTS book on the Britannias there are colour photos of several locos in BR service - some with red stripes and some without. So it was definitely a pre-1968 thing.
I remember reading somewhere what the red stripe meant, but I can remrmber neither the reason nor where I read it! I couldn't find anything relevant on a quick look at the aforementioned RCTS study.
Malcolm
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Post by jackrae on Feb 6, 2021 9:52:46 GMT
For those, like myself, too shy to ask why they were painted yellow, I found the following text by 'Penrith beacon' on the RMWeb website "In around 1960, BR decided to move from oil lubrication of roller bearing axleboxes to grease. At the same time it instituted an experiment in the use of a particular spec of grease in addition to the then standard one. All roller bearing axleboxes filled with grease were painted yellow, those axleboxes filled with the experimental grease had an additional horizontal red stripe painted on them. The experiment ceased in around 1963-4 with the adoption of the experimental grease universally. The red stripe was then deleted in theory."
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Post by dhamblin on Feb 6, 2021 10:48:24 GMT
Learn something new every day! Well reminded about the RCTS book Malcolm - just looking in my copy and on page 44 there is a colour photo of 72005 'Clan MacGregor' on Perth shed in May 1963 with yellow axleboxes and a red stripe. Certainly a mixed bag then and as jackrae notes if all were eventually switched to Lithium grease then the stripe becomes redundant.
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barlowworks
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Post by barlowworks on Feb 6, 2021 13:49:38 GMT
I must admit I find the yellow axle boxes quite attractive but, unfortunately, my Britannia is being built to represent its 1955 condition so plain back for me. ☹️😭
Mike
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Feb 7, 2021 14:51:20 GMT
Hi all, thank you all about the grease quality and I recall a fitter at Kingmoor demonstrating as how pure the grease was by putting some on his tongue and it didn't harm him.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Jul 17, 2021 20:21:54 GMT
HI all, on a Britannia there are short girder stays below the cab floor, supporting the floor. Question--- how many and do they all have slots cut into them ?. Do your best.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by airspeed on Jul 18, 2021 17:30:11 GMT
Greetings Geoff,
My drawings show 8 in total in 4 x pairs, three long per side that go under the complete cab floor plate and one short (the outer one) per side that only fits under the rear plate. They all have 2 slots in them.
Trust that this might assist you.
GD
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2021 17:39:34 GMT
Hi Geoff
Have a chat with Adam (Cro fittings) IIRC he drew the cab up in CAD and had it laser cut...I'm sure that there are pictures of it on this forum somewhere. I tried to find it but failed.
Pete
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Post by don9f on Jul 18, 2021 19:43:49 GMT
Hi Geoff, have a look at this photo, which shows these cab floor supports on 70000. I’m presuming that the Clans were the same as this.....as you may know, the later Britannia’s were modified to have a more traditional fall plate arrangement. This next photo shows the short, outermost bracket of a Clan quite well. Cheers Don
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Jul 26, 2021 19:54:55 GMT
Hi all, Geoff here, owing to the number of girder stays and never to be seen so I've decided to forget about them as they would be cosmetic only. I've got ,the outer ones fitted which looks the part, so thank you lads for the trouble I've put you to.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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Post by Geoff (Carlisle) on Jul 29, 2021 20:04:55 GMT
Hi all, I've just noticed that the bottom of the ashpan is almost touching the top of the spring hanger and when things start bouncing about it may touch, and the question is---- is there any Britannia builders with this slight problem ?.
Geoff (Carlisle).
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