model works 14xx

[terry1956]

hi chaps, maybe not the right place to ask, but hope you will help out. I have been told that model works engines are not to good. Is there a reason for this
is the simplex a better engine then the 14xx, if so why.
what price would get me arunning engine with full certs on todays market. i am interesting in buying a 5 inch gauge engine, for club running. thanks, michael

[alanstepney]

Modelworks were kits, but needed some extra / remedial work to get them running.
The quality of the completed model will depend upon the abilities of the builder, and how much time and effort he has put into it.

Simplex is a good design of which many hundreds have been built.
Again, the quality will depend on the builder, but at least he (she) was starting with a proven design.

Of the two, I would say that there is a better chance of finding a good Simplex than an MW.
(A personal opinion, which some may not agree with.)

As for prices, take a look at any of the reputable dealers, such as Station Road Steam, to see what they are selling for now.

[pondok]

Hi Michael, this topic has been covered many times before, but these links give you a pretty good idea of the market cost of engines:
www.stationroadsteam.co.uk/locomotives.htm
www.antiquesteam.com/stock.htm
www.viewmodels.co.uk/complete_models.htm
www.steamdays.co.uk/products/engines-locomotives

At a glance, looks like if you have:

3 grand - running engine of medium quality, but unlikely to find a public runner
5 grand - good public runner can be yours, medium quality
8 grand - buys you a nice engine, more than capably of public running

[pondok]

Not to mention:
www.steam-engines-for-sale.com/Listings-Railway%20for%20sale.html
www.prestonservices.co.uk/locomotives.html

[terry1956]

thanks for the links, well having looked at the dealers sites, the prices look all over the place and far more then engines i have seen for sale ( sold ) on the pages on this site.
so what should i look for a good simplex or a 14xx ? what would you pay for an up and running engine.

[alanstepney]

Of the two, I would think that there is a better chance of finding a good Simplex than a good MW 14xx.

But, personally, were I seeking a decent 5" loco, I would look at ALL of them and pick the best of what is available.
For example a Butch is an excellent passenger hauler, and there are other locos that one can see around.

I cant really express an opinion on prices as I have no recent experience.