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Post by ejparrott on Feb 20, 2013 20:25:33 GMT
Without being rude that sounds being very retarded! Why can they not accept the Winsons boiler? Its built to PSSR standards so it should be fine! What you're basically saying, is that no-one over there can have a model of a big mainline UK engine with out significantly reducing the water capacity and lowering the boiler pressure to a point its not worth running? How do you get on with Traction Engines of any decent scale?
Mind you, I could say the same about the UK acceptance of stainless boilers.....
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Post by peterdebeus on Feb 20, 2013 21:21:34 GMT
So im now looking for a complete engine, with all the paperwork i need....  If anyone has something for sale, let me know! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2013 21:42:44 GMT
Hello PETER-------- I'm so sorry to read about the trouble you would have with the Britannia boiler over there...... and after all that effort and help as well !!---------Given the situation that you find yourself in I'm sure you've made the correct decision not to carry on along this particular route...I wish you well in your search for a completed locomotive.............. It's also made me re-think my boiler designs for my Great Bear............
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Post by peterdebeus on Feb 20, 2013 21:52:00 GMT
I would love to build, but a boiler that isnt steam tested will be difficult to get certified...
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Post by ejparrott on Feb 21, 2013 14:06:04 GMT
What if the boiler was already steam tested in the uk? What if you were to buy an engine from the uk that already had a certificate, say for example 3 years 2 months of hydraulic remaining, and a new steam ticket of 12 months....would you be allowed to have that over there?
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Post by peterdebeus on Feb 21, 2013 22:36:56 GMT
Yes, the problem is only when its a new boiler, thats not documented at any register.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 22:56:00 GMT
Hello Chaps------ Yes, that would give a "Cannon Axlebox" effect.. On full size locos if the trailing axle passes through the ashpan then there is usually a shield built in to deflect any radiant heat .... We forgot to replace the one on Hagley Hall once---just caught it in time !!!! ---  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 23:01:34 GMT
sorry !!-------------- right reply, wrong thread !!-----------
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Post by ejparrott on Feb 22, 2013 10:05:35 GMT
Yes, the problem is only when its a new boiler, thats not documented at any register. Ok so silly thought, retain existing copper boiler, finish building loco, have it tested and certified in the UK, then present for retest back home......its already had 12months under steam test..whats the problem.... |
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Post by peterdebeus on Feb 22, 2013 10:33:23 GMT
Yeah i was thinking about doing that, but ill have to check if thats the way, should be an option.
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Post by peterdebeus on Feb 25, 2013 18:40:23 GMT
next saturday i´m going to see the 9F that stationroad steam has for sale. It needs some cosmetical atention but technicaly its optimised with CNC valvegear. Never run, so might need some work getting it running, but shoudnt be a problem. This model already has a club certificate so my club inspector tol me this isnt going to be a problem at all.... www.stationroadsteam.co.uk/stock%20pages/5713/index.htm |
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Post by ejparrott on Feb 25, 2013 21:00:47 GMT
The valve gear might be CNC manufactured, but that doesn't mean its right!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 11:17:22 GMT
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Post by peterdebeus on Feb 26, 2013 21:58:43 GMT
Thanks John, i know it might need some mods, ill check whats already done, fire it up and see how it goes, and change whats needed.
Peter
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Post by peterdebeus on Mar 4, 2013 17:40:23 GMT
Just been to stationroad steam last weekend, nice people and nice engine. So decided to buy this |
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Post by peterdebeus on Mar 6, 2013 13:27:46 GMT
Who knows a good adress to get a test bench for my 5" 9F so i can do some testing at home?
Peter
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 14:10:37 GMT
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Post by ejparrott on Mar 6, 2013 14:21:51 GMT
It would be a good idea, save the coupling rods kicking
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Post by jma1009 on Mar 6, 2013 15:19:51 GMT
hi peter,
a lovely looking loco... however i suspect 'all that glistens isnt gold',
and you have quite a lot of work in store. just 'coz a loco has a £100 set of etched nameplates doesnt mean it will be a good reliable loco.
i noticed the piston rod fixed with a single roll pin...urgh!! that's a complete strip down in my book for a start. the boiler is already out of certificate too...though it was never technically 'in certificate' without a steam test certificate.
the shade of green is wrong too!
i hope i am proved wrong and you have many happy hours of steaming enjoying your new purchase.
cheers,
julian
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Post by peterdebeus on Mar 6, 2013 15:39:34 GMT
i know it has some work to be done. My club boiler inspector was also with me when i was going to stationroad steam. He checked the engine and told me it was a good engine to start with. I will fix all the fittings etc that are leaking, make it a reliable steamer, and after that i will give it a new paint next winter. Thanks for the info |
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