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Post by debbie10 on Dec 3, 2013 7:15:36 GMT
Hello everybody,
I have been building several Stuart engines and the ME beam from Reeves, I am looking for a new challenge , not larger than a ME Beam . I have been browsing the Internet for other suppliers but havent been very successful .
Can anybody help me to find a supplier that provides castings for a new stationary Project ?
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Post by ettingtonliam on Dec 3, 2013 12:42:42 GMT
You could try Blackgates, apart from their own stuff, they have just acquired the Clarkson drawings and patterns, which haven't been available for over 30 years. There are several interesting engines there.
Richard
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Post by debbie10 on Dec 3, 2013 14:41:00 GMT
thanks Richard , I will check it out. Do you also know anything about Sussex Steam comp. ?
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Post by alanstepney on Dec 3, 2013 17:08:23 GMT
You could try Blackgates, apart from their own stuff, they have just acquired the Clarkson drawings and patterns, which haven't been available for over 30 years. There are several interesting engines there. Richard There are some interesting engines, but I gather that the drawings have errors, and that they are not as comprehensive as some people would like. Would make interesting and unusual models though. |
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Post by ettingtonliam on Dec 3, 2013 21:27:58 GMT
You could try Blackgates, apart from their own stuff, they have just acquired the Clarkson drawings and patterns, which haven't been available for over 30 years. There are several interesting engines there. Richard There are some interesting engines, but I gather that the drawings have errors, and that they are not as comprehensive as some people would like. Would make interesting and unusual models though. Alan Lets tread very carefully here, those drawings must be about 50 or 60 years old, and haven't been used, let alone updated for at least 30 years, and belong to an era when the user was expected to make his own judgement about fits etc. I've certainly worked in places where the drawings were at best a guide, not an instruction, its half the fun! Lets hope the locomotive boys never scroll down far enough to find this heresy! Richard |
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Post by alanstepney on Dec 4, 2013 8:11:07 GMT
The only set of Clarksons drawings I have seen appeared to have been for workshop use in a factory.
In fact, that is what many of their drawings were for.Use in their own factory rather than for the average customer to "home build".
Nothing wrong with that provided buyers dont expect fully detailed drawings, and havent got the "words and music" to assist either.
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Post by ettingtonliam on Dec 4, 2013 9:32:20 GMT
Maybe it would be a good idea for Blackgates to state that when selling them. I'm currently working to some Stuart Turner drawings from just before WW1, and they leave an awful lot to the machinists judgement. Things like 'tap 5/16"', without specifying what thread, clearance holes marked 'drill for 5/16" stud' rather than actual drill size. Yes, they need checking for errors too, and some dimensions are just plain missing. Fortunatley, I've been around long enough for this not to worry me. I know I'm on my own on this one, so I just get on with it.
Richard
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Post by Jo on Dec 4, 2013 9:45:51 GMT
The obvious one for stationary engines in the UK is Polly or Cotswold and the range of engines designed by Anthony Mount.
Clarkson Engines: I have a set of the Clarkson Steeple (Table) engine castings and yes the drawings are not up to modern standards, but they are better than some I have seen.
Jo
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Post by ettingtonliam on Dec 4, 2013 10:07:25 GMT
The obvious one for stationary engines in the UK is Polly or Cotswold and the range of engines designed by Anthony Mount. Clarkson Engines: I have a set of the Clarkson Steeple (Table) engine castings and yes the drawings are not up to modern standards, but they are better than some I have seen. Jo I'm so envious! I always had a fancy for the steeple engine, but Clarksons finished before I got round to it! Richard |
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Post by jma1009 on Dec 4, 2013 15:24:17 GMT
re H.P. Jackson/Clarkson, this is part of the valvegear drawing for the Jackson 3.5"g GWR KING. basically a glorified and dimensioned GA, and considerable knowledge of the fullsize locos is required to avoid making horrendous errors! i should imagine the stationary engine drawings are similar! cheers, julian  |
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Post by jasonb on Dec 4, 2013 16:26:51 GMT
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Post by ettingtonliam on Dec 4, 2013 17:44:11 GMT
re H.P. Jackson/Clarkson, this is part of the valvegear drawing for the Jackson 3.5"g GWR KING. basically a glorified and dimensioned GA, and considerable knowledge of the fullsize locos is required to avoid making horrendous errors! i should imagine the stationary engine drawings are similar! cheers, julian View Attachment'Normally exact length to be found by trial'! Love it! Don't tell Striplar. Richard |
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Post by deverett on Dec 4, 2013 22:29:58 GMT
Do you exclusively want a model made from castings? Have you considered one made from bar stock? They don't all look like steam boxes. It will more than likely work out considerably cheaper than castings and also, if you should make a mistake, it's only a bit of easily replaced metal that's wasted and not an expensive casting.
Ray Hasbrouck has a range of 10 engines from small to massive. The drawings are excellent with no errors. Elmer Verburg has about 50 designs and there are some very interesting engines among them. Designs from both of these gentlemen can be scaled up or down easily if required.
Dave
The Emerald Isle
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Post by debbie10 on Dec 6, 2013 12:13:59 GMT
thanks guys , at face view I like Polly and Cotswold a lot. The next one will be one from them
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