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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 9:14:49 GMT
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Post by charley on Jan 5, 2015 9:26:37 GMT
Lol
Charley
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Post by Roger on Jan 5, 2015 10:25:31 GMT
I find it rather sad that family would part with their Father's 'pride and joy' (their words), I'd hate to think that something I'd treasured would be parted with so easily.
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Post by digger on Jan 5, 2015 10:48:57 GMT
I find it rather sad that family would part with their Father's 'pride and joy' (their words), I'd hate to think that something I'd treasured would be parted with so easily. Me too Roger, my daughter has told me she wants my GWR Manor to display in her house, if anything happens to me, it is not to be sold! Digger |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 11:23:10 GMT
Unfortunately some families have no interest in what the husbands, dads, etc did in their spare time. I have been asked to finish a 5" KIng for a friend who acquired it from a woman whose husband had passed on. She hated her husband's hobby and as soon as he had gone she got rid of everything. The King would have probably gone in a skip if my friend hadn't been told about it and managed to rescue it. Some bits of it did finish up being scrapped before he got there.
John
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 11:37:54 GMT
That is a good looking engine ... wish I lived "over there" ... I'd have that.
I have made a wee book that has the name, value, and who to call to dispose of all of my "stuff". No one to leave it too as there is no interest whatsoever in what I make from the rest of the family, or even most of the people I know.
Alan, you do come up with some jems.
Cheers
Tom
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 11:52:02 GMT
I find it rather sad that family would part with their Father's 'pride and joy' (their words), I'd hate to think that something I'd treasured would be parted with so easily. I too find such things very sad, some of these loco's take decades to build and imho should be cherished by those left behind...I suspect that my wife would probably sell my assets..purely as she has no real interest in them...i could be wrong of course, she may just as easily refuse to let anything go...hmm.. perhaps that's a little bit of wishful thinking on my part...Some of my sons do show an interest in both my models and my car but I think my best bet may be my two new grandson's, one 2 months old and the other due next month...I've already told their mums that I plan to take them both to the club and shows when old enough...I reckon about 6 months should be old enough .....  Pete |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 14:00:59 GMT
I've made it quite clear in my will that ALL my Estate and any assets contained within are to be sold off by my 2 named executors at best possible price, and in any event no later than 12 months after the date on the Death Certificate....Any residual cash after payment of due expenses, etc. to be dispersed as per an attached Codicil...This Codicil is amended from time to time to allow for changes in circumstances...( Julian, is that the correct terminology ??).......
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Post by steam4ian on Jan 5, 2015 22:26:58 GMT
Better for a family to sell a loco where there is some opportunity for it to be rebuilt than for the loco to be stuffed and mounted.
A 2.5" or 3.5" gauge loco on a mantle piece or cabinet is one thing but just what a family would do a with a 7.25" NG engine is another. unfortunately one in our club is destined to go that way which seems a waste.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 23:18:06 GMT
Yes, it does seem a pity but we have to remember that these are items of private property and it's not really any of our business what the surviving family decide to do with them....However that doesn't stop us having an opinion, myself included....
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Post by Roger on Jan 6, 2015 7:44:07 GMT
Agreed, a 7-1/4" Mallard is more like a White Elephant than an Heir loom. I'd love to think that something as small as SPEEDY might get tucked away and picked up by someone in the family and cherished just like Doug has with his. It's unrealistic to expect every generation to have an interest, but sooner or later, someone in the family is sure to be entranced by something like that.
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Post by jem on Jan 7, 2015 18:39:32 GMT
I built a digger for digging holes to plant trees etc. I wonder what will happen to it when I kick the bucket, it certainly wont end up on a mantle piece!
Jem
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Post by joanlluch on Jan 7, 2015 20:09:53 GMT
Only those who lived in the steam days can really have interest in what we do. This will be inevitably lost in a couple of generations. Children do not even have interest on toy trains. For example, if you consider what a video game can offer there's no comparison. Some computer games allow you to enter in interactive worlds that are far more sophisticated and interesting than playing with trains. By a very large extend. We must forget on anybody following us. That's just not going to happen.
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Post by jma1009 on Jan 7, 2015 20:24:49 GMT
sorry joan,
i entirely disagree! thankfully both my teenage daughters have a great interest in steam locos, and have driven my own locos since age 6/7, and these days are far better drivers of them than me. i dont remember steam in use on BR, and neither do many others, and age or remembering 'steam' has nothing to do with the interest shown by the younger generation - the attraction of (dare i say) COAL fired steam locos transcends age boundaries due to the amazing appeal of the traditional steam locomotive!
cheers,
julian
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 20:40:53 GMT
I agree with Julian... you don't need to have lived in steam days to have an interest in steam...you just need that spark of interest preferably at an early age. For me it was my Grandfather who introduced me to trains and also models...it was he who took me to Seymour Halls along with my father but not always and he who lit the first torch in trains, my father with models in general. I remember the beautiful model of HMS Hood that my father presented to me on my 8th birthday beautifully made, the same year that I built my very first model, an airfix 1/72nd 5.5" gun and matador lorry... you could just about make out the shape below all of the glue..... Here's a short clip from 1968...I bet i was there that year too, I remember the layout exactly as shown here.... www.britishpathe.com/video/model-engineering-exhibition-1Pete |
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Post by joanlluch on Jan 7, 2015 21:15:44 GMT
The cases you describe are very exceptional. My case alone is very exceptional as well. Just to clarify: I have never seen a running full scale locomotive, except the ones in thematic parcs that run on light oil. Never smelled burning coal except on old lime kilns (no longer existing and quite disgusting in this particular case), and on model steam locomotives. I do not expect that my daughters find any appeal on steam locos beyond the watching of the "Polar Express" movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 22:19:51 GMT
The cases you describe are very exceptional. My case alone is very exceptional as well. Just to clarify: I have never seen a running full scale locomotive, except the ones in thematic parcs that run on light oil. Never smelled burning coal except on old lime kilns (no longer existing and quite disgusting in this particular case), and on model steam locomotives. I do not expect that my daughters find any appeal on steam locos beyond the watching of the "Polar Express" movie. ahh but Joan, who's to say that you haven't already sown the seed with 'Polar Express'....not a bad film for train buffs...take her to see a steam locomotive in steam, she'll love it and I'd bet that you would too... Pete |
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Post by joanlluch on Jan 7, 2015 22:57:48 GMT
Hi Pete. I guess I will need to travel to the UK to eventually see a real steam train in standard gauge. This is no longer possible in my country. Last time I could have had an opportunity was during a commemoration in 1980 or so. Unfortunatelly, by the time the train approached where I was, the steam loco was shut down (possibly broken) and the whole train pushed by an electric one. So no steam sound and no smoke. This event never repeated and the only few remaining steam locomotives in Spain are cut open in half to show its internals in several train museums.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 23:53:55 GMT
I saw some steam hauled trains in BR days but not many . Saw lots of industrial steam for another 10 years after it stopped on main lines .
Had some very good runs behind preserved steam in more recent times . Main line long distance ones are almost always good but one set of runs that I will never forget was on the Valley Lines .
Three separate runs on the same day to each of Treherbert , Merthyr and Rhymney . Engine was BR Standard class 4 .
The engine and the three man crew were on top form and we practically flew everywhere .
Anyone doesn't know the Valley Lines they are a set of several branch lines originating at Cardiff . Each line is very individual in character . Considerable gradients on some of them .
Anyway we stormed up the magnificent Taff Vale main line to Radyr and a water stop and then on Treherbert . Thought that was pretty good but it was transcended on the later run to Merthyr . I have never known an engine work better or be better handled . Fast accelerating start from dead stop at Abercynon and then a fast totally controlled ascent of the legendary Abercynon bank . Abercynon bank is long and VERY steep due to its having been cable worked in the early days . Only one slip - instantly dealt with - and the distinctly individual exhaust beats sounding like cannon shots .
After that another good run to Rhymney and back to Cardiff . Went see the engine for a final time that day - neither engine or crew were the least bit dirty or apparently fatigued .
Often forgotten how good the BR standards were .
Service train home past Canton and a last glimpse of an engine which had done everything asked of it .
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Post by jma1009 on Jan 8, 2015 0:09:53 GMT
hi michael,
i remember that day very well! i had both daughters with me on the first trip of the day up to Rhymney. 'rat up a drain pipe' was how the late Tom Clift described the loco's performance. a few very old friends of mine who were drivers of Valley Line trains and had fired in steam days were asked if they wanted to do a refresher on the SVR so they could drive the loco that day - no fear they all said!
when the 150th anniversary of the opening of the Rhymney Line was imminent i wrote to the MD of Arriva Trains Wales suggesting a repeat occurance - i didnt even get the courtesy of a reply.
cheers,
julian
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