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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 9:21:09 GMT
I feel lonely - I just want a computer which works. I do not want to become an expert in computing. I want to use it as a tool. -------------------- I fear WE are fast becoming the "tools" in all this !!...
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Post by Roger on Feb 27, 2015 17:02:28 GMT
I feel lonely - I just want a computer which works. I do not want to become an expert in computing. I want to use it as a tool. I think most of us feel the same. My chief worry was always the dreaded crash and loss of data and the inevitable rebuilding from scratch. I've found that Dropbox is brilliant for the loss of data worry and Solid State drives are finally reliable so I use them. I've found that setup with Windows 7 works really well and is as bullet proof as most systems. The last hard drive crash resulted in no loss of data, I just downloaded Dropbox, signed in and it all came back like magic. Brilliant! Compared to ten years ago, I have far less hassle from computer these days. I don't buy cheap power supplies, mine was expensive but has no fan. The same goes for the graphics card and the CPU, there are no fans or rotating parts in my system, it's totally silent. Lovely!
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Post by runner42 on Feb 28, 2015 3:39:49 GMT
Alan I read your penultimate post three times and after scratching my head and then another place, I decided that you weren't talking gobbledegoop like Professor Unwin in the 70s but a clever parody on married life but using computer terminology. Very funny.
Brian
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Post by joanlluch on Feb 28, 2015 8:33:42 GMT
I feel lonely - I just want a computer which works. I do not want to become an expert in computing. I want to use it as a tool. I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food.
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Post by goldstar31 on Feb 28, 2015 9:16:41 GMT
I feel lonely - I just want a computer which works. I do not want to become an expert in computing. I want to use it as a tool. I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food. It is called 'Frictional Inertia' in the same way that that many Spanish supermarkets still quote prices in pesetas along with the Euro. It is still normal for us Limey Bastards to use miles per gallon and buy petrol and Diesel oil/gasoil in litres. We are simply resistant to anything other than the Common Cold and the Black Death. You now write Catalan and change the spelling and change the spelling because - well, only the clergy could read and write. We have to accept that change doesn't come easy. Regards Norman
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Post by Roger on Feb 28, 2015 9:25:19 GMT
I feel lonely - I just want a computer which works. I do not want to become an expert in computing. I want to use it as a tool. I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food. For some of us it's not a realistic or attractive option. All my specialist programs are only available for PCs and I really have no significant issues with PCs. Whether we like it or not, Windows is the worldwide standard for desk based systems, so it has more applications written for it. I don't have a problem that needs fixing.
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Post by joanlluch on Feb 28, 2015 9:33:55 GMT
I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food. It is called 'Frictional Inertia' in the same way that that many Spanish supermarkets still quote prices in pesetas along with the Euro. It is still normal for us Limey Bastards to use miles per gallon and buy petrol and Diesel oil/gasoil in litres. We are simply resistant to anything other than the Common Cold and the Black Death. You now write Catalan and change the spelling and change the spelling because - well, only the clergy could read and write. We have to accept that change doesn't come easy. Regards Norman Hi Norman, You are completely right. Change is difficult, and the older we get the more difficult it is. That's a fact and a rule of life, so nothing to argue against that. However, although miles and imperial units are still used in the UK, "pesetas" disappeared long ago from everywhere including supermarkets. Transition to Euro is fully completed since years ago, including in people minds. About Catalan language spelling I am not sure what you mean. As far as I know the language is spelled the same since at least one thousand years ago. Of course languages evolve by picking new words and replacing grammar structures but that's a continuous natural process that is not driven by explicit will.
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Post by joanlluch on Feb 28, 2015 10:08:34 GMT
I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food. For some of us it's not a realistic or attractive option. All my specialist programs are only available for PCs and I really have no significant issues with PCs. Whether we like it or not, Windows is the worldwide standard for desk based systems, so it has more applications written for it. I don't have a problem that needs fixing. sure!
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Post by goldstar31 on Feb 28, 2015 10:17:59 GMT
Hi Joan, Actually I was quoting the quite big supermarket Eroski and that was only last September. It quoted Two prices as normal. My wife and I were laughing at the changeover from the peseta to the euro and how the pesetas under the bed, changed into cars and houses so that the hidden money need not be exposed to official sources.
So when I talk about language, few could read or write and road signs have changed over the years. It is not just Spain but one of my grandmothers couldn't read or write. The other was a school mistress - but probably only three or 4 pupils. My grand father and father and uncles could barely read or write but produced locomtives- the big, dirty and smelly variety with brass Two foot rules and drawings done in the dirt of the blacksmiths' shop.
OK, I can muddle along in about three languages but I still can speak a variety of English called 'pitmatic' which is basically something, Norwegian, French, Scots, Early English and rather refined 'Oxford English'. Certainly, it never really deserves to go into print.
Howay, bonnie lad, diven't drop yor dottle on the proggy mat, ye kna? Or Aal give ye a howkin'
Cheers
Norman
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 10:38:08 GMT
Nice-one Norman !!------------- Juliet2, any offerings ??-------------or Drumkilbo maybe ??----- but only within the thread heading, of course ..
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Post by runner42 on Mar 1, 2015 7:15:42 GMT
I feel lonely - I just want a computer which works. I do not want to become an expert in computing. I want to use it as a tool. I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food. This is off topic and I accept the criticism for doing so.
I chose a PC over a Mac because of the open architecture of the PC. I build my computers, which cannot be done with a Mac and in doing so I have the flexibility to choose my Motherboard, CPU, Memory Size, Video Card, HDD, PSU, Case, any add in cards, Keyboard and Mouse. All these components are readily available from Suppliers. My original build can be as a budget conscious solution or a top end model, however as hardware items are improved, I can update my computer one step at a time. I accept that there are certain restraints with Motherboard and CPU they have to be compatible. On the software side there are various OSs to choose from and the software programs are more readily available. A software development house would develop software firstly for a PC, sometimes they extend the development to a Mac. The reason for this is the number of users for a PC is far greater than for a Mac so a greater market to exploit. To make this a balanced reply a Mac does have some unique features and is a bit more stylish than a built up PC but the price is generally much higher than a PC. If you are a person that don't want what most computer users have and are willing to pay for this uniqueness then go for a Mac, but if you require the hardware flexibility to make your PC tailored exactly to your needs and budget then there is only one choice.
Brian
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Post by joanlluch on Mar 1, 2015 8:50:46 GMT
Hi Joan, Actually I was quoting the quite big supermarket Eroski and that was only last September. It quoted Two prices as normal. My wife and I were laughing at the changeover from the peseta to the euro and how the pesetas under the bed, changed into cars and houses so that the hidden money need not be exposed to official sources. So when I talk about language, few could read or write and road signs have changed over the years. It is not just Spain but one of my grandmothers couldn't read or write. The other was a school mistress - but probably only three or 4 pupils. My grand father and father and uncles could barely read or write but produced locomtives- the big, dirty and smelly variety with brass Two foot rules and drawings done in the dirt of the blacksmiths' shop. OK, I can muddle along in about three languages but I still can speak a variety of English called 'pitmatic' which is basically something, Norwegian, French, Scots, Early English and rather refined 'Oxford English'. Certainly, it never really deserves to go into print. Howay, bonnie lad, diven't drop yor dottle on the proggy mat, ye kna? Or Aal give ye a howkin' Cheers Norman Hi Norman, I am curious where you found that Eroski supermarket with prices (also) in pesetas. I live in Catalonia and I haven't seen that for at least 10 years. And time flies so it may be more. The Euro was introduced in year 2001, and "peseta" bank notes were removed from circulation the following year. Prices remained in both currencies for say 3 years more, but that's all. As said, many years have passed since then. Even if pesetas were still used all references would have been lost because prices after 15 years have been changed a lot due to year to year inflation. About (Catalan) language maybe what you refer is the reposition of CATALAN road signs, by replacing the SPANISH ones that were put during the repression days. This has nothing to do with a CHANGE OF SPELLING as the original post suggested, it is a CHANGE OF LANGUAGE !!!. Also, during Franco dictatorship the Catalan language was banned from the public use and from schools. This is why some elder people do not know how to write it. But again that has nothing to do with any change of a language spelling. As I stated the language remains about the same (except natural evolution) since one thousand years ago, and definitely it is the same than one hundred years ago. I think there is a big confusion on this. Languages do not change overnight, LOL !!
Finally, Catalan is not a dialect or a particular way to speak, it is a LANGUAGE in itself !!. Like say Portuguese, French, Romanian, Spanish or Italian. As such it has a vast amount of written literature that has been produced for centuries. See google !!
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Post by joanlluch on Mar 1, 2015 9:00:11 GMT
I have already given a solution for this: Switch to Mac. It's a pity that some people just refuse to try for no reason, like a child refusing to taste a new food. This is off topic and I accept the criticism for doing so.
I chose a PC over a Mac because of the open architecture of the PC. I build my computers, which cannot be done with a Mac and in doing so I have the flexibility to choose my Motherboard, CPU, Memory Size, Video Card, HDD, PSU, Case, any add in cards, Keyboard and Mouse. All these components are readily available from Suppliers. My original build can be as a budget conscious solution or a top end model, however as hardware items are improved, I can update my computer one step at a time. I accept that there are certain restraints with Motherboard and CPU they have to be compatible. On the software side there are various OSs to choose from and the software programs are more readily available. A software development house would develop software firstly for a PC, sometimes they extend the development to a Mac. The reason for this is the number of users for a PC is far greater than for a Mac so a greater market to exploit. To make this a balanced reply a Mac does have some unique features and is a bit more stylish than a built up PC but the price is generally much higher than a PC. If you are a person that don't want what most computer users have and are willing to pay for this uniqueness then go for a Mac, but if you require the hardware flexibility to make your PC tailored exactly to your needs and budget then there is only one choice.
Brian
Well, you explicitly state that you perform maintenance. Going back to topic, if you want a maintenance free, trouble free computer, you have choice as well.
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Post by goldstar31 on Mar 1, 2015 10:33:16 GMT
Well Joan we could argue happily on the subject of language but I fear that there will come a time when we would be blocked for really wandering off topic which is actually off topic anyway. However, I'm enjoying your comments.Thank you for them.
As far as computers, I suspect that there are similar views. I don't think that there will be much interest in making computers which are little more than Lego and a few self tappers. I've done it- that is my experience!
Meantime
Regards
Norman
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Post by andyhigham on Mar 1, 2015 11:18:57 GMT
One of the biggest problems with windows PCs is the amount of unwanted software that gets downloaded to it. When you download a program, there may be several others attached to it, some harmless others malicious. Apple and Linux systems don't have this problem, not because they are a better O/S but in computer numbers they are rare and not worth the time and effort of the malicious software writers. Apple may have a good O/S and trendy stylish looks but they are built cheaply and sold expensive. A macbook air cannot have its battery replaced, if the screen cracks it cannot be repaired, as these are bonded into the case. The HDD and memory are soldered into the motherboard and cannot be replaced or upgraded. For a £1000 computer this is just taking the pi$$
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Post by joanlluch on Mar 1, 2015 11:37:18 GMT
One of the biggest problems with windows PCs is the amount of unwanted software that gets downloaded to it. When you download a program, there may be several others attached to it, some harmless others malicious. Apple and Linux systems don't have this problem, not because they are a better O/S but in computer numbers they are rare and not worth the time and effort of the malicious software writers. Apple may have a good O/S and trendy stylish looks but they are built cheaply and sold expensive. A macbook air cannot have its battery replaced, if the screen cracks it cannot be repaired, as these are bonded into the case. The HDD and memory are soldered into the motherboard and cannot be replaced or upgraded. For a £1000 computer this is just taking the pi$$ Sorry but Linux suffers from some of the same problems than Windows. It requires SOFTWARE maintenance even more than windows, and having a Linux system updated is a nightmare. About hardware, same argument being aired again and again. I'm giving up. What has this thread to do about HARDWARE ? If you do not like the MacBook AIRs just buy MacBook PRO or a much cheaper iMac, and you will have (some) hardware upgradability options. Yet none of them require Hardware or Software maintenance.
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Post by simon48 on Mar 1, 2015 14:01:59 GMT
If Compaq hadn't locked some Lawyers and a Software Engineer in a room the PC clone wouldn't exist and you wouldn't be able to make your own PC - you would have to buy a ready made expensive IBM PC or ready made expensive Apple and that's would be that. Yes me and brother have been nocking together PCs for years. Just buy what supports the Software you want to use, and use a recognised virus checker to keep full steam ahead.
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