NSW C36 in 2.5" G

[Shawki Shlemon]

This another project that I am involved in , as I mentioned in the Invicta thread I am now working on the frames , the boiler for this is completed , tested and stamped with AMBSC code number .Roger saw this half built but now is done . No leaks and no soft solder .

[Deleted]

Hi Shawki ,

I had to look up the NSW C36 : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_C36_class_locomotive

Quite a big engine and it seems that there were two boilers and a lot of detail variations ?

Nice to see a firebox to barrel connection with proper wrap around joint on your boiler .

Regards ,

Michael .

[Roger]

May 31, 2015 8:07:09 GMT Shawki Shlemon said:

This another project that I am involved in , as I mentioned in the Invicta thread I am now working on the frames , the boiler for this is completed , tested and stamped with AMBSC code number .Roger saw this half built but now is done . No leaks and no soft solder .

Indeed I did, and I have to say that I was very impressed by your boiler making.

[Shawki Shlemon]

Thanks Michael , this is supposed to be the round top boiler , as I mentioned I am using whatever stock I have if possible , the barrel I had was too short and hence what you see , once cladding is on all be hidden .
Thanks Roger .

[runner42]

Hi Shawki,

No leaks and no soft solder. Great job, that's something I would liked to have achieved. Obviously complies with the code, what stay diameter and spacing did you use and how did you satisfy the double flanged throatplate?

Brian

[Shawki Shlemon]

Hi Brian , what is the problem with the throat plate , it is double flanged , rearwards to outer wrapper and forward to the tube , not hard to make , the stays are within the code requirements , they may be larger in diameter but the code only asks for a minimum as long as spacing for the thickness of the plate is correct , what is the question you want to ask ? please ask clearly so that I can answer you . I built 29 boilers except the first two or three I have never used soft solder on my boilers .While its acceptable for non structural purposes , it is a pain in the neck , once used it makes it very difficult to use silver solder afterwards .

[Deleted]

Hi Shawki,

Nice to see another 2½" gauge loco being built, especially outside of the UK

Is it a published design or your own?

John

[runner42]

Hi Shawki,

it was a casual question, just out of interest not an inquisition. You have answered the question, your track record speaks for itself.

Brian

[Shawki Shlemon]

Hi John , this is a published design , originally by LBSC and modified by Bolton here to represent one of popular NSW engines , I have built two of these one in 5" G completely designed by Winter at Bolton ( originally this mob was Bolton , then was acquired by E.J. Winter ) , the second in 2.5" G , its in the sitting room in a glass cabinet , I am building this to pass time , if and when is completed I will run it , for a while at least . The first one only run once , I had many offers to buy it but it is part of the sitting room , is not going anywhere , not with my permission . This is a large engine in 2.5" G , engine frame is 18.625" long to give you an idea .

Brian , I don't mind questions , I answer what I can , this is a hobby , that is how we learn . Just the way that you put it was unclear what you meant .

Note - I have now looked at the plans and want to correct a wrong statement above ( senior moment ) , Bolton designed the engine ( not modified any ) and used some of LBSC ideas in his plans , the plans are for a NSW C36 engine exclusively .

[Deleted]

Do these narrow firebox engines in 2-1/2 inch gauge need a lot of attention to the fire when running ?

[ejparrott]

Our Annie doesn't require any more than usual if that's what you mean

[Deleted]

I asked the question because my Tich was basically a 2-1/2 inch gauge engine spread out a bit and it was a real art to keep the fire in good condition for any length of time .

Might have been though because boiler was too small for the engine and this coupled with doubtful valve and valve gear design meant the boiler had to be forced to produce enough steam to run .

[Shawki Shlemon]

Boilers with small fire boxes need more attention than those with large wide fire boxes , generally the driver will learn how often to feed the fire and check the water level and it becomes normal .

[Jim]

The NSWGR's 36 class locos were one of my favourites, they just had very nice lines. As a youngster a 36 was the regular motive power for 'The Fish' on its daily run of 80 miles from Mt Victoria to Sydney carrying office workers to their jobs in Sydney then departing at 5:30pm as I remember it for the return run up the 'hill'. Happy memories

Jim

[Shawki Shlemon]

Its time to update and report slight progress , engine frame is complete , the photos explain it better than words .

[Shawki Shlemon]

I have left this thread idle for a long time , I had finished the tender under frame but I got side tracked into another project , I know that I said my last planned steam loco but as you all know this is an addicting hobby , I saw a set of castings for a 5" Baldwin for sale with plans and a steel boiler for a reasonable price and got me sucked in , the castings were in Victoria 900 K trip , the seller declined to posted even if I paid for the cost , so I gave it a miss because I don't want to drive that much by myself at 77 . one day I was talking about it to John ( electric steam ) and he volunteered to come with me and was it , I bought the castings and for the last 2 months I have been involved with it , I made the engine frame , see the thread for it .

[ejparrott]

You did say the last *planned* engine Shawki - leaves you lots of scope for *un-planned* engines!!

[suctionhose]

Hope we see it and you at "Small Gauge Day" at Ryde next year! (usually Nov)

[Shawki Shlemon]

these things takes time , time will tell , thanks .