Lisa
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Post by Lisa on May 7, 2017 6:24:48 GMT
This pdf showed up in my twitter timeline last night, it's a copy of the British Transport Commission "Handbook for Railway Steam Locomotive Enginemen." I thought a few people here may find it interesting and want to grab a copy. drive.google.com/file/d/0B2-ruq9AWbmFTVlkV1NPUnNqQWM/view |
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Post by simplyloco on May 7, 2017 8:03:08 GMT
This pdf showed up in my twitter timeline last night, it's a copy of the British Transport Commission "Handbook for Railway Steam Locomotive Enginemen." I thought a few people here may find it interesting and want to grab a copy. drive.google.com/file/d/0B2-ruq9AWbmFTVlkV1NPUnNqQWM/viewWhat a find! The sectional drawings are outstanding in their clarity, and it's even got a Brit cab layout in it! Downloaded... John |
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mbrown
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Post by mbrown on May 7, 2017 9:31:12 GMT
It's been reprinted a number of times since the days of BR steam - and it is still in print.
Malcolm
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 9:35:13 GMT
I have it both in hardback and PDF..sorry I thought we all knew about the online source....what I do want to get one day is the earlier version dedicated purely to the LNER...IIRC my hardback is 1953
Pete
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Post by 92220 on May 7, 2017 11:29:24 GMT
Mine is 1957. I also have the 2 copies of 'Steam Locomotion. The construction, working principles, and practical operation of steam locomotives' by Edward Cecil Poultney, edited by C.R.H.Simpson, and published by Caxton.
It is an in-depth treatise on the engineering of steam locomotives, with loads of sectional drawings. 2 brilliant books for anyone who has an interest in how the various parts of a steam loco work.
Bob.
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mbrown
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Post by mbrown on May 7, 2017 15:28:19 GMT
Another book well worth getting if you can find it is "Locomotive Management from Cleaning to Driving" - it went through several editions (I have the one from 1912 and one from 1939 but I believe the first edition was 1908). The range of diagrams is as good as the BR Handbook but covers earlier designs, but the best bit IMHO is the section on Q&A for aspiring footplatemen - very helpful for troubleshooting with models as well as full size locos.
It was published independently, not by any one of the old companies, so it covers different company practices. There seem to be a good number around second hand.
Malcolm
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Post by doubletop on May 8, 2017 9:52:50 GMT
Another book well worth getting if you can find it is "Locomotive Management from Cleaning to Driving" - it went through several editions (I have the one from 1912 and one from 1939 but I believe the first edition was 1908). The range of diagrams is as good as the BR Handbook but covers earlier designs, but the best bit IMHO is the section on Q&A for aspiring footplatemen - very helpful for troubleshooting with models as well as full size locos. It was published independently, not by any one of the old companies, so it covers different company practices. There seem to be a good number around second hand. Malcolm This? archive.org/details/LocomotiveManagementPete |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 10:52:20 GMT
Thank's for that Pete, I've not seen this before and found it very interesting especially in regards to what I'm doing right now with the coupling rods...page 158 is of particular interest along with the description on the following page, it goes into a lot of detail of the bushes and how they are fitted, interestingly I note that they are not all placed in from the front face and that they are both keyed and have set screws to stop rotation/keep in place?
I find this kind of information very intuitive, whether it's relevant to miniature operation is immaterial, I just find it fascinating and will use any elements that make sense where possible to add more authenticity (for want of a better word) to the finished model.
Kind regards
Pete
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mbrown
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Post by mbrown on May 8, 2017 18:46:41 GMT
This? archive.org/details/LocomotiveManagementPete[/quote] Yes - although that appears to be the final (1954) edition. The different editions contain some similar material and lot that differed over the years. My 1912 edition has nothing on superheaters (although there are adverts for superheaters on the end papers!) and covers Stephenson and Joy valve gear but not Walschaerts! Later editions caught up with the technology! Maloclm |
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Post by doubletop on May 9, 2017 10:22:05 GMT
Yes - although that appears to be the final (1954) edition. The different editions contain some similar material and lot that differed over the years. My 1912 edition has nothing on superheaters (although there are adverts for superheaters on the end papers!) and covers Stephenson and Joy valve gear but not Walschaerts! Later editions caught up with the technology! Maloclm [/quote] A bit of senedipity on my part. I'd read this thread on the bus on the way home yesterday and completely unconnected decided to tidy up my hard drive last night and came across a pdf of the book which I had downloaded over 3.5 years ago and promptly forgotten I had it. Flicking through it after I re-discovered it I thought it may be of interest to this thread, a quick Mr Google and I found you the source. Since Pete has pointed out the details it provides I've now taken a better look. I prefer a real book so I've got a 1948 copy winging its way to me from Ebay. Only £10 and £4.50 postage to NZ so nothing too painfull. There appear to be 2 more 1948 versions on Ebay from the same vendor (World of Books) one in Florida and one in the UK. And 3 on Amazon but one of those is also from World of Books Florida so could be the same one, plus one in Canada and one in France. Pete |
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Post by doubletop on May 9, 2017 10:44:18 GMT
P.S. The book Lisa posted is available as a new re-print from Ian Allen publishing. I thinks thats where I got my copy
Pete
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Post by 4fbuilder on May 9, 2017 21:25:27 GMT
Hello Pete,
The "Locomotive Management from Cleaning to Driving" tenth edition shewn is a pre war edition, the last edition before the war I think was the eleventh edition, the twelth edition that appeared after the conflict was completly revised with all new photographs and drawings etc as the previous plates etc were lost during a bombing raid.
Each edition has many useful details drawings and narative, they do appear from time to time on the various bookseller sites and as the owner of several editions they can be reccomended.
Regards,
Bob
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Post by quaintandrattly on May 16, 2017 8:27:32 GMT
I have the hardcover version of this. As one who never had the art of firing explained, the first half of the book turned firing from a chore to a breeze. My copy has circulated through my club with great results. Pete
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