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Post by silverfox on Jan 3, 2008 11:18:32 GMT
Did anyone see how much the Breeze A4 set of bits went for?
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Post by mutley on Jan 3, 2008 11:30:41 GMT
£1710! Click completed listings on the left hand side and enter your user name and password when promted. Makes me wonder what my part built 5" gauge 9F, which is in a similar condition, would be worth.
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Post by silverfox on Jan 3, 2008 11:55:02 GMT
Not a bad price. the workmanship looked ok, mind the hard bit still needs to be done. The front end curves. I always tell my wife who adores A4's that if i couldn't get the front end shape correct, and by golly a wrong'un looks just that. then it would end up as a A3!! Still lucky she didnt see this one, i would never had got my B17 finished
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Smifffy
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Post by Smifffy on Jan 3, 2008 13:10:15 GMT
Any chance of the listing no. - I would love to check it out. Mark
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Post by mutley on Jan 3, 2008 13:41:17 GMT
120194862854
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Post by spurley on Jan 3, 2008 14:56:02 GMT
This site is a model engineer's forum open to all; some members of which are interested in these, and other, ebay listings. It is normally quite a friendly and considerate site where individuals can express suitable interest without unnecessary criticism. Perhaps some consideration before posting might be in order?
Brian
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Post by spurley on Jan 3, 2008 15:04:09 GMT
Thank you, many happy returns.
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Post by GWRdriver on Jan 3, 2008 16:11:40 GMT
Well we certainly have on our thin skins today. Why the automatic assumption that all that's part-built and/or on auction is junk or problematic? I have a perfectly exquisite 5"ga Maid of Kent chassis, bought out of a garage (jumble?) sale, which some poor sod apparently ran out of time on. I'll finish it off and will be proud to complete what he started (whoever he/she was), but I see going in that my work won't match the quality of what's been done.
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Post by ron on Jan 3, 2008 16:47:50 GMT
When I started out I bought a part built Tich off Ebay and the workmanship was excellent, after a while though I decided I was never going to be able to say 'I built that' and flogged it [for a nice profit] and started the Simplex from scratch. Probably like others on here I've seen some junk piles for sale on Ebay as well though! I don't think I could ever really be happy with a loco where I had finished off someone else's work and I don't think there would be the same pride of ownership buying someone elses completed loco you wouldn't bond with it the same as building it, but at the end of the day it's everyone to their own. Ron
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Post by steammadman on Jan 3, 2008 16:49:24 GMT
well said dj,, as most know i abhore "cheque book model engineers", they are not model engineers in my eyes, the club i used to belong to was full of em. before long they took over and ruined a good club,and of coarse they soon knew more than us old hands,(or thought they did), i have long past the 3score and ten years,but then ,i was told i,m a new comer, by one of them. is there any wonder i see red when they start bragging about what they have, (bought) , not made. i am now independant and enjoying it! ! ! ! SPEND YOUR MONEY BOYS IT WONT LAST FOREVER
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Post by keith6233 on Jan 3, 2008 17:16:44 GMT
Well i hope there are plenty of cheque book engineers out there when i have steamed things for a few years the next project is finished its nice to be able to cash in the last one . I have a 7 1/4 Tinkerbell only steamed about 8 times unused for the last 3 years, i enjoy the building more than the running of them.
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steam4ian
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Post by steam4ian on Jan 3, 2008 22:47:53 GMT
G'day all.
There is a place for cheque book loco owner/operators. Firstly they give value to the work of others, it honours the builder to keep his engine running or make his engine work. Think how a widow must feel to see something that hubby laboured on now lovingly finished or rebuilt and working. Secondly, the loco can be kept operating for the benefit of the public and our hobby at large. Lastly it can keep a unique loco in the club. This is particularly the case in South Oz where we had some great prototypes but models are comparatively rare. I was thrilled that a member had purchased a fine 5" 520 class 4-8-4 and now has it running. Mind you this bloke has earner his stripes being a principal player in rebuilding (including new frames and cylinders) a 3'6" 4-8-0.
Better people buy a loco than steal it! How could you run a stolen loco? more to the point, where would you run it?
Regards, Ian
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Post by Shawki Shlemon on Jan 4, 2008 9:13:00 GMT
Hi Ian May be one day you find my 5" g SMR 10 that was stolen from my place in dec/2000 . That will make me happy .Gone without Trace .
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Post by chameleonrob on Jan 4, 2008 13:19:08 GMT
just bear in mind who the cheque book engineers will have to go to when their loco needs work doing to it, in the club I'm in the work generated from that source almost entirely pays for my hobby.
rob
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Post by GWRdriver on Jan 4, 2008 14:33:14 GMT
Likewise, I reckon my retirement (fast approaching) will be slightly more comfortable than it might have been otherwise thanks to the box-openers and check-writers of the world.
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Post by spurley on Jan 4, 2008 15:45:19 GMT
The A4 'kit' was the complete collection of castings to build the loco to the design of someone called Breeze. As far as I could tell it is not a kit as such ie simply bolt together. Quite frequently these 'kits' come up for various engines. I have bought several unfinished projects on ebay which have turned out to be mainly untouched castings and a set of frames. I have also bought a Minnie which was a set of castings and material bought from Reeves and presented to a retiring engineer who never started it. This is a very cost effective way, as long as one remembers what one is prepared to pay and doesn't get auction fever! The Minnie, complete with gears and boiler material cost me £300 which I consider a bargain. However I now find myself with enough projects that mean I need to retire yesterday and live to be well over 90 I hope the 'threat' to retire from this forum, Dr John, is only your humour? This site needs all angles to remain interesting and everyone should have their say, IMHO Your Simplex is progressing nicely and we should continue to see the results of your labours please. Cheers Brian
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Post by 3405jimmy on Jan 4, 2008 16:18:45 GMT
Hmm after reading all this I wonder where all the stuff is that Modelworks sell. Obviously anyone with a kit bashed loco needs to be hung in a cage at the entrance to every club just to remind the members what can happen if you follow the wrong path.
As to eBay my workshop would be pretty bare if it wasn’t for all the tooling, cabinets, gizmos and work “easiers” I had bought since I discovered the magic search terms Bridgeport and Colchester,
Seeing as it the season of good will nearly, I would perhaps kindly observe a lot of the posts here seem to be a bit of pretentious snobbish waffle. What is important is getting people on club tracks as members promoting the hobby maybe getting there kids interested and most importantly having fun. How they got the locomotive is of no interest to me.
Jim
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Post by alanstepney on Jan 4, 2008 18:00:57 GMT
As this is now way off-topic, but the subject of buying versus building seems to be of interest to some, I will start another thread on that subject.
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Post by silverfox on Jan 4, 2008 20:01:13 GMT
As i was the OP on this, please accept my apologies for the misleading title. I agreed it was a lot of finished parts, BUT still needed a hell of somebodies time to get it running. However, i agree with the sentiment about the 'kit' locos that are on offer, not seen many running, even less on Ebay, although there are some really nasty piesces of so called enginnering that crops up. At first glance the workamnship lookok for the A4, still need to get the casing right though!
And on an entirely unrelated topic, if there are any computer whizz people out there that could spare me 5 mins i would appreciate it see in the Off Topic section.Anyone going to ally pally on the Sat?
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ewal
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Post by ewal on Jan 4, 2008 21:51:43 GMT
Thank goodness for the people who want an engine but who haven't the time or the skill to build one. Since I started 10 years ago I have built 9 steamers & 1 petrol. I build 3 or 4 then clear them out & start again.I have 3 more boilers already built, A Tinker Belle & 2 Sweet William types, by the way I was 80 the other day & I think keeping active keeps me fit. Eric Walker.
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