vapor
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Pickle
Feb 22, 2008 9:57:28 GMT
Post by vapor on Feb 22, 2008 9:57:28 GMT
I'm sure someone outthere has the answer to this one, I need to clean/pickle a loco boiler I have purchased some citric acid crystals as used in the home brew game. So the question is what is the dilution rate how much water to how much weight of crystals. ;D
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Pickle
Feb 22, 2008 10:35:57 GMT
Post by AndrewP on Feb 22, 2008 10:35:57 GMT
A handful in a bucket ! Seriously though it isn't critical, this has been covered before and several people posted recommended mixtures. The stronger it is, the quicker it works, warm helps as well.
Cheers, Andy
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Noddy
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Feb 22, 2008 11:18:40 GMT
Post by Noddy on Feb 22, 2008 11:18:40 GMT
A good strong solution deters any bugs from setting up home in the stuff, and if it is strong enough it will keep pretty much indefinately.
Keith
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vapor
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Feb 22, 2008 13:42:35 GMT
Post by vapor on Feb 22, 2008 13:42:35 GMT
Thanks for the words of wisdom guys, it may have been covered before but my searches did not throw anything up, it seems fairly easy anyway, I did not go up the sulphuric acid route as this was harder to locate, right must get on with me pickling, onions anybody??
Ian
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Tony K
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Feb 22, 2008 16:10:26 GMT
Post by Tony K on Feb 22, 2008 16:10:26 GMT
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paul
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Pickle
Feb 26, 2008 22:14:37 GMT
Post by paul on Feb 26, 2008 22:14:37 GMT
Onions for me please.
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russell
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Feb 27, 2008 19:17:25 GMT
Post by russell on Feb 27, 2008 19:17:25 GMT
Strange, all this talk of citric acid - over here I can buy sulphuric acid in any DIY shop and most supermarkets stock hydrochloric acid and useful solvents like acetone.
Russell.
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Noddy
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Feb 27, 2008 19:28:45 GMT
Post by Noddy on Feb 27, 2008 19:28:45 GMT
Hi Russell,
Because citric is so much pleasanter to handle and use, does the job just as well, and is easier to store and dilute.
Hydrochloric is easy enough to get most places, but the rusting and corrosion it causes on everything if you so much as loosen the lid in the workshop, makes it not worth the trouble.
Phosphoric and Sulphamic are available for anyone who wants them, as milk scale removers from agricultural suppliers.
Phosphoric is very good at passivating iron, steel and zinc before painting, as their phosphates are insoluble, and it's cheaper as an agricultural chemical than it is packaged as rust remover for boy racers in Halfords...
Keith
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russell
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Feb 28, 2008 9:00:09 GMT
Post by russell on Feb 28, 2008 9:00:09 GMT
Can't find citric acid for sale in quantity here. I guess I'll just have to pick a few lemons off the tree in the garden!
Seriously, I don't find a problem with sulphuric acid. I do all the pickling out of doors and have a locked lid on the tank to keep the grandchildren out.
Russell.
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Pickle
Feb 28, 2008 11:37:43 GMT
Post by circlip on Feb 28, 2008 11:37:43 GMT
Find that strange Russell, citric acid is used extensively in home wine making, and if there's one the the French seem to be noted for, it's wine? Ian
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Noddy
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Feb 28, 2008 16:45:33 GMT
Post by Noddy on Feb 28, 2008 16:45:33 GMT
The wine makers use it to give tasteless wine some bite, especially after they've had to add sucrose to get the stuff to ferment in the first place.
Keith
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steam4ian
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Feb 29, 2008 8:55:25 GMT
Post by steam4ian on Feb 29, 2008 8:55:25 GMT
G'day all
French wines are acid enough without adding citric or tartaric acid; IMHO they are b.... awful compared even to the relatively full flavoured Australian vin ordinaire I am sipping at the moment.
I got my citric acid from a "Home Brewing" equipment supplier. Ozzies make good beer too. Tho its hard to go past those "cheek sucking", hop filled dry lagers in Germany or a pint of Newcastle Brown.
Bottoms up (refers to glasses not posteriors0 Ian
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russell
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Feb 29, 2008 9:04:50 GMT
Post by russell on Feb 29, 2008 9:04:50 GMT
Sorry, getting a bit off topic but can't resist replying to Ian: I agree that some french wines are too acidic but here (Languedoc Roussillon) we have over 300 full days of sunshine a year and some of the sweetest wines that are made anywhere, and from just 1 euro a bottle.
Santé!
Russell.
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PH
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Feb 29, 2008 14:34:25 GMT
Post by PH on Feb 29, 2008 14:34:25 GMT
I live in the north of France where we are beer drinkers. Are there any model engineering uses for beer (apart from trying to forget that you've just drilled a hole in the wrong place and ruined a €100 casting)?
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abby
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Mar 1, 2008 13:36:45 GMT
Post by abby on Mar 1, 2008 13:36:45 GMT
You guys are Philistines , how DARE you do anything with wine or beer except drink , hic
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