New Loco Advice - Class 2 BR

[ianmac]

OK well the gauge 1 36 class is progressing nicly and in about 200 more hours i think we will be pretty close to calling it a day.

Next loco is now being planned and although i would like to build a C38 they have been done to death i think so i would like to build something a little diffrent.

The Class 2 BR tank loco looks the part to me so i am gathering adivce and i have a few questions

Could i build this in 71/4?
Woudl the wheel profile be avaliable in 7/14
Is the engine a good design?
having completed the Gauge 1 shoudl i build another gauge 1 to build my skill base or do you think i once again be able to pick up what i need as i go along?
any pitfalls i should be worried about (boiler redesign asside to meet the AMBSC rules)?

Cheers
Ian ...

[mutley]

yes
yes
yes
no
and probably

Jim Vass does the class 2 in both forms (tank and tender) for 7.25" gauge. Quite a few built and a good performer on the track. Have a look at his website here.
homepage.ntlworld.com/jim.jvml/

Andy

[Tel]

if you are confident, there are plenty of NSWGR designs available.
The Z12 comes to mind.

[steam4ian]

G'day Ian

The Class 2 is a good looking loco; would look at home on the NSWGR and SAR.

To operate the cab/tender would be a pain.

If I recall the NWSGR has some good moguls to model even if they were elderly. I have on my to-do list an SAR Y or W class mogul. They being 3'6" gauge, to build for 5" would make a decent size loco, even better on 7.25. At SASMEE there is a
7.25 V class 0-4-4 tank; at 12" to 1' it is a diminutive loco (cute?) but built to 7.25 it is quite presentable.

Good luck
Ian

[Shawki Shlemon]

I built a z 13 in 7.25" and I think it is the only one around , it will be nice to have a partner . See my website for photo and a short video . It has been to two conventions and many special events plus it has been in the AME .It is a small engine and runs like a charm .

[ianmac]

Andy,

were you saying no to building a 5" or no to building another gauge 1.

Tel,

I havnt purchased anything yet so its still up for grabs.

Ian,

It is a looker, one draw back is not having access to the full size.

shawki,

I remember reading the AME artical "one man and his models" ..very very impresive. Do they have a 13 class at thirlmeere

ian

[Shawki Shlemon]

The answer is yes but not operational . have you seen mine running ? you can on my site .

[mutley]

Hi Ian
No, I dont think you'll ahve any problems applying what you have learnt to a larger model.

Andy

[daveburrage]

I'm building the 7 1/4 Jim Vass BR class 2 (2-6-0 tender). I'd be interested in corresponding with anyone else building (or thinking of buiding) one.

regards

Dave Burrage

[chris vine]

Hi Ian,

my only thought is that the newer types of locomotive had many more gizmos to them than the veteran types.

If they were not on the original you don't have to make them and you can still give yourself a pat on the back for doing it right!!

Even better, many of the older types had very open style cabs and low tenders (if not tanks) which makes them much easier to drive as models.

Chris.

[ianmac]

Nice looking engine shawki.

You must have built almost everything that is on ernies plans and casting lists ;D

I guess all the gizmos look cool though. Detail is one thing that is very important to me. You can have a loco with out rivets for instance. I have not seen many gauge 1 locos with a fully riveted tender but i went to thirlmere and took photos so i could build it as close as possible to the full size. Sure its time consuming and a pain in the as* but its nessary.

I can see why you see a lot of 5" locos that only have half the detail they should. After spending a few years constructing its would be easy to leave the detail out so you can get out on the track.

I am still a few months away for making any big purchase so its open.

I have the plans for a 38 in 3.5' gauge and i was going to halv the dimentions and try that in 45mm if i still handt made up my mind.

I really wanted the 36class in 71/4 but at 4 grand for the castings that might be a few years ago