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Post by Andy Clark on May 11, 2008 14:31:43 GMT
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Post by weldsol on May 12, 2008 10:16:19 GMT
How does someone walk off with a 7 1/4" loco or even a 4 1/2" traction engine.
They don't exactly fit into a coat pocket it must be organised and perhaps even stolen to order
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Post by Laurie_B on May 12, 2008 11:36:19 GMT
I think you're right there Weldsol,these models are usually stolen to order as these thieves seem to be too well prepared.
A few years ago (nothing to do with model engineering really) some thieves stole a Henry Moore sculpture which was in bronze and weighed about three tons!Hardly something you'd walk off with.
It must be heartbreaking for those model engineers who discover their creation has been taken.
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Post by Tony K on May 12, 2008 12:37:22 GMT
A few years ago (nothing to do with model engineering really) some thieves stole a Henry Moore sculpture which was in bronze and weighed about three tons!Hardly something you'd walk off with. Every cloud has a silver lining and they probably did us all a favour - let's hope they made something useful out of it  Perhaps those who imagined it was art could imagine it was still there. ;D |
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Post by weldsol on May 12, 2008 12:52:29 GMT
I think you're right there Weldsol,these models are usually stolen to order as these thieves seem to be too well prepared. A few years ago (nothing to do with model engineering really) some thieves stole a Henry Moore sculpture which was in bronze and weighed about three tons!Hardly something you'd walk off with. It must be heartbreaking for those model engineers who discover their creation has been taken. Yes I knew about the sculpture I was talking to one of our local CID guys and he reckons it was melted down fairly quickly as they had a call about a lorry being seen at the scene then a report same lorry near a scrap merchant so it's anybody's guess where it ended up. Maybe it has become someones cylinders for their loco  |
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Post by Laurie_B on May 12, 2008 16:13:05 GMT
I think you're right there Weldsol,these models are usually stolen to order as these thieves seem to be too well prepared. A few years ago (nothing to do with model engineering really) some thieves stole a Henry Moore sculpture which was in bronze and weighed about three tons!Hardly something you'd walk off with. It must be heartbreaking for those model engineers who discover their creation has been taken. Yes I knew about the sculpture I was talking to one of our local CID guys and he reckons it was melted down fairly quickly as they had a call about a lorry being seen at the scene then a report same lorry near a scrap merchant so it's anybody's guess where it ended up. Maybe it has become someones cylinders for their loco Had some of the 'art intelligencia' witnessed the event-they might have thought the theft was a piece of performance art!!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2008 20:29:15 GMT
One thing I do notice while looking at this site is how many of the listings reporting thefts lack even one decent photo of the model concerned. |
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Post by Andy Clark on May 13, 2008 20:24:41 GMT
One thing I do notice while looking at this site is how many of the listings reporting thefts lack even one decent photo of the model concerned. I agree - I am always disappointed that there aren't more photos as their presence adds so much to the chances of recovery. I reckon we should all get out in the nice weather and get snapping - it's always nice to get a good photo of your prized possessions and it's good insurance (sadly). Andy |
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Post by Shawki Shlemon on May 14, 2008 10:23:57 GMT
It is heartbreaking one of mine is on the list .  but life goes on ) ( SMR10 tank engine ) |
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Post by chris vine on May 14, 2008 22:15:18 GMT
In Russia (or was it The Ukraine) last year some thieves stole a full size (and large at that) locomotive from a plinth in the middle of a town.....
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Post by ianmac on May 15, 2008 23:53:23 GMT
I remember reading your story in ame shawki.
I rang ernie one day and we got on to building a loco bla bla. I said that the SMR10 would be on my list and the first thing he said was do you know of anyone selling one or have you seen one for sale and then told me your story.
People are still looking and i would think that it would be impossible for that loco to run anywhere in OZ. you will find it will turn up in 30 years time as it passes hands someone tries to get it registered.
Do you know of any insurance companies that insure LOCO's or does it come under your house insurance
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Post by Shawki Shlemon on May 16, 2008 9:51:42 GMT
NRMA said to me that it is a vehicle ,it carries a person from A to B and therefore must be separately insured and when I asked them to ensure my engines , they declined .  I did ask a broker and he offered insurance at the cost of my live saving + all my income + more !!! |
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Post by DaveD. on May 16, 2008 10:51:13 GMT
Hi Folks
My contents insurance has a 'Specified Articles' section.
Cannot model loco's be declared in this bit?
I don't have any such items, so I'm not using it, but the policy Doc. appears to say it's for things of value greater than 1000GBP not described in other sections. Carpets, furniture, tellys etc.
It does imply they may require valuations etc . Dunno, never used it, only thing of value here is me, and I'm not certain of that !!
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Post by circlip on May 16, 2008 11:02:56 GMT
Although a different "Model", when I rebuilt my Guzzi, various finished stages were photographed to show the Stainless bits I had made and the quality of the finished article. This was because "Motor vehicles depreciate in value!" according to the Insurers. (NO not a rebuilt MK1 Le Mans) "So, that being the case I suppose my 61 Venom Clubman is worth bu**er all then?" I don't think so.
Even when there is a genuine claim, trying to get the Insurer's to open their purses is like trying to push water up a ducks posterior. I was storing some electric motors in my cellar, which flooded due to some idiot in a local factory, (Don't ask). After contacting "The PRU" to get them to pay for a rewind on them, NOT replace, the hassle I got, "Are you running A business from home? industrial electric motors?" When I explained I was A Muddle Ingineer and we use this kind of thing to power home machinery, I might as well have said "I come from the planet Zog" the expression on the twerps face.
Strange, they don't seem to ask silly questions when they want the premiums, which seem to go up every year?
Like the paragraphs Freddo?? ??
Regards Ian.
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Post by alanstepney on May 16, 2008 12:14:45 GMT
I will start a new thread on the subject of insurance.
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Post by DaveD. on May 16, 2008 14:04:57 GMT
Hi Folks Oh Dear, Mr Circlip Sir, now you have upset me. I used to own a 1961 Viper Veeline Clubman. Or at least it was until I de-Veelined it one night. Far too much Worthington E / ambition. Far too little actual riding ability! Mine had been re-worked by, I think, A R Taylor of Warks. CR Box, Bigger inlet Valve, Cams etc. Nice bike on the open road, but an absolute camel in town. Below 30 it was 'slip the clutch time, smoke pouring off the racing linings, didn't seem to harm 'em though, and the RN carb sprayed more petrol out than the engine used. I shall get my Bike DVD's out later on , and wallow in nostalgia, probably enhanced by a Glen Morangie or several. My mate has a '66 Thruxton, Blue one, one of the best looking bikes ever made I think. Regards Dave D. |
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Post by circlip on May 16, 2008 14:17:58 GMT
Used to slaver down Cowie's showroom window in Bradford at the Thrux when they first came out although I had the Venom at the time. The price tag of £218 new was a bit out of my league as an apprentice at the time. YES A PROPPER APPRENTICE, NONE OF TERDAYS OVERPAID NUMPTY'S.
Read and weep, Regards Ian.
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Perhaps those who imagined it was art could imagine it was still there. ;D
but life goes on )
