gwr
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Post by gwr on Jul 11, 2009 19:59:59 GMT
After much searching of the tinternet, i can't find the difference between the round and square window panniers of the 57xx Class. I am trying to detail the tanks and outside of a 5" pansy. (position of water filler, lifting rings etc. )Does anyone have any info and /or drawings / photos of the top of the tanks of a square window 57xx.
Many Thanks
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Post by dinmoremanor on Jul 11, 2009 20:27:18 GMT
I dont have a GA of the 57XX I'm affraid but I do have a Swindon works drawing for the tank vents, lifting rings, rear window gaurds and tool boxes etc. if that would be of interest to you?
Cheers, Mike
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gwr
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Post by gwr on Jul 11, 2009 20:30:51 GMT
That would be fantastic, is it a hard copy or electronic? Thanks
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Post by dinmoremanor on Jul 11, 2009 20:32:00 GMT
Electronic, e-mailing it now along with a close up photo of the top of a friends 5" highly detailed pannier.
Cheers, Mike
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Myford Matt
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Post by Myford Matt on Jul 12, 2009 13:53:06 GMT
Hi Guys Good to see other 57xx fans. Below are links to three photobucket albums with around 300 detail shots from the South Devon Railway at Buckfastleigh (GWR 5786) and Didcot (GWR 3738). s144.photobucket.com/albums/r175/myfordmatt/Didcot%20010608/s144.photobucket.com/albums/r175/myfordmatt/Buckfast240906/s144.photobucket.com/albums/r175/myfordmatt/Buckfast080707/(Don't forget to to click 'Full size' to see a bigger version.) The Didcot album includes some useful shots underneath the loco: axles, motion plate etc. To orientate yourself when looking at these, note that the front two axles are painted red, the rear is painted grungy grease. Hope these are useful. Let me know if you require high res versions of any of the photos. Also, note that on the first page of the Didcot album, the three images ending in 108, 109 and 110 are from GWR 3650 Mike – I would be most grateful if you could also send me the drawings: matt at pulzer dot org Last, don't waste an afternoon downloading these individually. Send me an email and I'll send you the lot zipped from my ftp site. Cheers Matt  |
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Post by engelmannd on Jul 13, 2009 11:07:23 GMT
Hi Mike
I would really appreciate it if you could also send me a copy the drawings: engelmannd at icon dot co dot za
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Myford Matt
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Post by Myford Matt on Jul 13, 2009 16:13:13 GMT
This is quite a nice GWR GA, showing the main differences between the Pansy suspension and the real McCoy – helps to interpret my Didcot photos. Cheers Matt  |
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Post by Myford Matt on Jul 13, 2009 18:14:26 GMT
Model  Prototype – GWR 3738 (from underneath)  Much the most interesting Pansy I have ever seen is currently under construction by Peter Hitchin. I snapped the images in the following link at Ally Pally last year. Note the BETWEEN cylinders valve gear and true-to-prototype suspension. s144.photobucket.com/albums/r175/myfordmatt/Peter%20Hitchin%2057xx/On the very first page of LBSC's comprehensive write up of Pansy he says that between-the-cylinders valve gear would not work efficiently. It will be interesting to know how well PH's 'Pansy' operates when it has been finished. I think PH made his own castings, but I'm not certain. Cheers Matt |
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Post by gwr on Jul 13, 2009 19:28:32 GMT
Thanks for that GA. Peters Pansy looks a real wor of art.
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Post by Myford Matt on Jul 14, 2009 17:47:29 GMT
I've been in contact with the reference section at the National Railway Museum in York and ordered everything they have on 57xx drawings:
0-6-0T Pannier '5700' class
0-6-0T No. 7713 '5700' class spark arrester chimney
0-6-0T '5700' class
5700 GA 1/2
5700 GA 2/2
0-6-0 Tank '5700' class Maximum Cross Section DIA. B48
Arrangement of foot boarding and engineman’s seat
Motion arrangement for '5700' '2251' and '9400' classes 1928
Arr't of flap plate for '5700' class 1930
Arr't of triple feed (sight type) lubricator 5700 class 1928
Arr't of smokebox 0-6-0 Pannier tank engines 5700 class 1928
Erecting plan of 0-6-0 Pannier tank engines 5700 class 1928
G.A. of 17 1/2''x 24'' cylinders for '5700' class 1928
Chimney spark arrestor for '5700' class 0-6-0T GWR 1935
Position & style of lettering on '5700' class engines 1936 GWR
G.A. of cab & fittings for 0-6-0T '5700' class GWR 1928
At some point I hope to go to York and have a root around for other drawings. GWR made a policy of using the same parts on different loco types, so drawings of bits and bobs that may not be listed as 57xx specific may still be available, providing one knows what to look for – which I don't ;D. I suspect this is particularly true of cab fittings and 'plumbing', such as injectors.
NRM provide A3, A2 and A1 reproductions, so it may be a while before I can share any of them, but I'll update everyone when I can.
Has anyone dealt with the GWR Soc at Didcot? I imagine they have a very good selection of drawings since they have just refurbished a 57xx.
Cheers
Matt
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