Ivo Peters S&D 7F so far !

[drumkilbo]

Here is a pic of progress so far, best described as 'slow and deliberate'. It was a big help getting the horns cast by Abby, next job will probably be axleboxes or machine the driving wheels or anything else, there's plenty to choose from. A bit like the farmer who was asked if he had to look for work to do on his farm. He replied that he just walked out the door every morning and he was surrounded by it.

Ian.

[simonwass]

Jul 27, 2009 15:30:52 GMT drumkilbo said:

'slow and deliberate'

Very good ;D
Intentional, I assume

[drumkilbo]

You assume right, Simon, at times of course it has been 'slow and dirty' like the real thing.

Ian.

[welshy]

Very nice bit of work. Keep up the photos as work proceeds.
Well done
Mike

[drumkilbo]

Thanks, Mike, I will do, so long as you don't mind the photos at yearly intervals. ;D

Ian.

[drumkilbo]

Thanks for posting those pics Paul, very interesting and lovely work and detail by your pal. I'll maybe have a look at the Fowler tender of the Don Young 'Crab'. And thanks for your help in sourcing suitable castings.

Cheers,

Ian.

[tbsteam]

Looking good Ian. You're making quite good progress considering you only started it just before xmas (or was it just after, i can't remember!!)

Cheers
Tom

(p.s. Hows the Hall looking???)

[redmog]

Good Photographs.

Thanks for sharing your photographs with us.
It's nice to see other peoples work.
It gives me inspiration and something to aim for,
and there is often something to be learnt from them.

Chris

[drumkilbo]

Hi Tom,
It was started about the middle of March, fits and starts ever since, feverish activity during all that rain, no good for gardening anyway. The Hall is waiting for better weather to get the tender sprayed, got the first coat on about 2 months ago and it's either been raining, raining, or just about to rain ever since. How are your Halls coming on, or has the land rover taken precedence now ?

Chris, I agree about other people's photos, I've learnt a lot from your motion bracket fabrication etc, how's the V4 coming on ?

Ian.

[tbsteam]

Well, until last weekend, the Halls hadn't really made any progress. I've got a boiler kit for the air running Hall that i'm (very) slowly making my way through, but the other Hall hasn't seen the light of day since last year.
Yes, the Land rover has taken over somewhat, and it seems like it's going to carry on that way for a while yet, but i started clearing the bench yesterday so that work on the Halls can start again.

Tom

[drumkilbo]

The only benefit of all this rain for self employed gardeners is that I've been getting on with the axle boxes and the beams and brackets for the suspension. I'll need to try and get my head round pb strip ,spring steel, tufnol etc.
Has anyone ever used old hacksaw blades or the steel banding that you get round pallets of bricks and slabs etc for springs ?

Ian.

[Shawki Shlemon]

I have always used spring steel and I have no problems , i have seen only one in our club used banding steel but after a short period the springs are worst than flat and the new owner of the engine is planning to remove them and replace them with proper spring steel . This is an observation of mine and is not a condemnation of using this type of material , I have a stock of it , never used it and after what i saw I will get rid of it .The choice is yours.

[drumkilbo]

Thanks for your observations Shawki, spring steel it is then !
Cheers,
Ian.

[drumkilbo]

That's very interesting, Paul, and rather worrying as well ! I was going to pm you regarding your thoughts on the strength of the leaf springs as I think you had mentioned this before. I think I'll scan the appropriate bit of the plan and post it here and invite a response from the learned members of this forum as I've never made leaf springs before either.
Ian.

[drumkilbo]

Here is the aforementioned bit of the plan.
Please does anyone out there have any opinions on the suitability of the strength of these leaf springs for a 165lb 2-8-0 5"gauge loco, S & D 7f Ivo Peters ? As it was a dry day today I've been busy cutting grass and all the boring stuff associated with making a living, otherwise I would have been ordering spring steel today, so your comments have been very welcomed Paul !!

Ian.

[alanstepney]

Without doing any calculations, my initial guess is that they wont be strong enough, and will be "bottomed out".

Having said that, in the past I have spent many hours calculating springs, only to find that I was wrong, so take my opinion with a pinch of salt!

I would allow for at least half of the leaves to be steel, but see above.

[drumkilbo]

Your opinion is valued Alan, with or without the salt, and reinforces a "gut" feeling I have about the strength or lack of strength going by the plan.

Ian.

[Shawki Shlemon]

I make my springs stronger that the plans for two reasons , first we are in a backyard workshop and we do not have the means to make and test the springs accurately and secondly the springs will settle after few runs .

[drumkilbo]

Sound advice, thanks Shawki.

Ian.

[drumkilbo]

Had my head down and got the wheels done.