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Post by hudson on Dec 25, 2011 17:23:59 GMT
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springbok
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Post by springbok on Dec 26, 2011 3:18:38 GMT
Hi Thank you for finding and posting this facinating film.
Bob
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Post by donashton on Dec 26, 2011 21:07:46 GMT
And my thanks to Hudson, too. Thanks for sharing a superb find.
Contractors have just been dismantling GWR 4115 as so many parts are common with 4709. After spending some 12 months buried in Swindon drawings to gain familiarity with the various parts it is still an education to see it all before before the eyes, whether building up or stripping down.
Don
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Post by Myford Matt on Dec 26, 2011 21:58:25 GMT
Magnifique!
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Post by davebreeze on Dec 26, 2011 23:22:47 GMT
Wonderful. And an impressive machine too - looked like high and low pressure compound cylinders and piston valves all in the same cylinder blocks?
Interesting the way it was all put together too - The assembled chassis complete with valve gear being lowered onto the rear 3 driving wheelsets and all the connecting rods and valvegear connected up, and then the whole lot being lifted and lowered onto the front drivers - would be interesting to know why (or maybe just to me as a mechanical engineer who took the manufacturing engineering option at college!).
I'd love to some day build a model of a large French loco like that, but they look so complicated compared to British ones...
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Post by 3405jimmy on Dec 27, 2011 8:47:05 GMT
There used to be a similar DVD available for locomotive building by the North British Company, called Today and Every Day. Covering the building the 2000th locomotive for South African Railways in 1947. What is interesting is the almost carbon copy building process to the French. I guess there is not that many ways to build a locomotive. Although NBL managed to design a locomotive with lifting lugs on it not a piece of channel under the buffer beam. I would love to see the risk assessment, safe work procedure and lift plan that would pass that method in these days of H&S. It was released by Paramint who also re-released Diamonds were forever the Channell 4 documentary on the Springburn works. Both classics at least for my interests in modelling. Unfortunately I don’t think Paramint are in business any more. Jim
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Post by hudson on Dec 27, 2011 8:53:51 GMT
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Post by hudson on Dec 27, 2011 9:13:07 GMT
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Post by ilvaporista on Dec 27, 2011 13:55:39 GMT
The Zara truck or Italian Bogie (Carello Italiano) as it is called here was very common in Italy. It was used on many designs and even on the Narrow Gauge. The idea was to guide the first set of drivers in to the curve.
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Post by arch1947 on Dec 27, 2011 21:47:29 GMT
Very interesting. If the first driving wheel forms part of the front bogie how were they coupled to the other drivers? Negotiating corners would seem a bit tricky from a drive perspective. Some locomotives with articulated drives were used here in the logging industry in Tassie and the method of coupling the wheels was quite complex. Cheers, Arch
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Post by davebreeze on Dec 27, 2011 23:20:12 GMT
Very interesting, I had not heard of the Zara truck before.
Camden had the DVD with 'Today and Every Day' on it, I meant to buy it but never got round to it - I hope it's still available somewhere.
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Post by bambuko on Dec 28, 2011 17:26:25 GMT
...I had not heard of the Zara truck before... Because everywhere else it's know as Bissel bogie/truck from Levi Bissell who is generally credited with inventing it. Chris ps and no, there is no mistake Bissel (single L) bogie and Bissell (double L) Levi .
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springbok
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Post by springbok on Dec 30, 2011 8:35:28 GMT
It was released by Paramint who also re-released Diamonds were forever the Channell 4 documentary on the Springburn works. Both classics at least for my interests in modelling. Unfortunately I don’t think Paramint are in business any more.
Jim do you have anymore info on this as a boy I used to walk past it everyday. Have a pic of the B1 under construction here.
Bob
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Post by Peter W. on Dec 30, 2011 15:12:51 GMT
Bought a video some time ago with the following two items on it :- The Other Man's Job 1943 ( 3 mins ) NBL WD locos North British 1949 ( 41 mins ) NBL steam production : superb One of "Treasures from the Scottish Screen Archive" -- distributed by www.panamint.co.uk but I can't see that particular video/dvd there now. Hope you find one, Peter W. WHOOPS : They are included on the North British/Today & Every Day Catalogue PDC2024 ! Hope you enjoy it ...
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Post by 3405jimmy on Dec 30, 2011 21:02:04 GMT
Bob
As Peter W says it looks like Paramint are still in business. Which is good to know I also have the DVD’s Peter mentions which are also worth a look. In fact I would buy the lot and wallow in NBL nostalgia.
Jim
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