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Post by billydampshed on Sept 20, 2004 2:09:05 GMT
hi, i thought i would introduce myself to you, im bill and im a self tought novice at turning/milling/welding/ i love owt to do with shiny metal, in a past life i must have been a magpie, i have a myford ml7 and a tom senior M1 horizontal miller, beleave it or not my workshop is only tiny 10' sq and a monster of a machine like a senior takes most of that room up, but im not complaining as im happy with it, i would like some info on keeping things like tooling and machinery free from rust if anyone has any ideas? ive done as much as i can through blocking up holes and giving the tools an oil coating, but the rust comes back just as quick, i tried a parafin heater but this seemed to encourage the rust as every thing got saturated in moisture, god knows, no wonder i havent made anything yet im on constant rust watch! so if anyone has any ideas please let me know,
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Post by alanstepney on Sept 20, 2004 2:43:29 GMT
An oil heater does make things worse, as you discovered, as it gives off water as it provides heat.
The answers are, as much insulation as possible, and heat, and / or a dehumidifyer. Electric heat, or a central heating system of some sort are about the only ones that will not give off moisture.
With machinery, a small amount of local heat will keep rust at bay. Fix a cover over the lathe, and inside it, or underneath the lathe bed, fix a small electric lamp. A 15 watt one will usually work OK. (Make sure it is in a place where it cannot start a fire.) In fact, it doesnt need to be on all the time: those cheap time switches are ideal.
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Lee
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Post by Lee on Sept 20, 2004 9:57:19 GMT
Although rust isn’t a particular problem around here for the last few months I have protected my lathe and mill with a lanolin based product Lanoguard 3000. I wipe the machine down after use and spray; it leaves a thin almost dry slightly greasy coat that is easily wiped of when starting again. There are a few different brands on the market most claiming the same thing. Prevents rust/electrolysis/ verdigris creep/battery terminal corrosion it will even waterproof leather shoes. Lanolin spray cans are sold in Auto Part/Fishing tackle and Hardware stores in Australia I am not sure of elsewhere.
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Post by Tel on Sept 21, 2004 1:18:42 GMT
and Welcome Aboard Bill
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Post by billydampshed on Sept 21, 2004 3:19:09 GMT
thanks for the advice gents, i am going to employ these ideas streight away for keeping the rust at bay, thanks to tel , lee and alan for your welcoming notes, i am not a total newcommer to the hobby just a bit green behind the ears, i have in the past put a few of my own ideas into practice and patted myself on the back when they have worked , if i may share one of these ideas , to you more experienced and like me novice, this might be something of interest to you, i never had a machine vice (i couldnt afford one) so i got a piece of 30 x 10 mm flat bar bent the last 100mm at 45 deg and drilled a hole to take a 13mm bolt at the short end so if you like it looked something like a dog leg, secure the bolt through the drilling table and on the work to be drilled place the dog leg, you can apply as much downward pressure as neccesary, it works brilliant and it will even hold thin guage plate safely while drilling, which is a nightmare to hold securely as we all know, dunno if anyone already uses a tool like this but its a gud 'n. good night all ;D
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