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Post by steamcoal on Mar 21, 2015 0:15:28 GMT
I had to visit my club last night and found the access gate left open at 6:30pm.
It was the model boat guys for sure and they are going to get an ear bashing at the next meeting from our Iron lady president.
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Post by Rex Hanman on Mar 21, 2015 8:52:36 GMT
Will they get that "sinking feeling" when they find out?  |
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Post by steamcoal on Mar 21, 2015 9:49:49 GMT
I hope they do!
I got a telling off for not latching the padlock closed after I opened the gate one day. Some of these club people need a reality check. It is the usual petty politics of a club and there perceived powers know no bounds.
Today I looked in the club train shed and almost every trolley but two have been red stickered as unservicable, never mind that they have not been used in ten years and not likely so for another ten i expect. All the steaming bay has yellow paint everywhere. Someone has gone berserk with the HSE book. Obviously a sign of frustration born out of the fact that we cannot run at present due dry weather.
I am expecting that I will have to carry a first Aid kit, Fire extinguisher and wear a bike helmet next running day. Oh…. I forgot the lifejacket just in case I come off and end up in the boat pond. Not sure I want to go back.
Rex, you were commenting on telling someone that you are going to the track, alone or not. I advise that too,( I tell my wife of course) and I try to carry my phone with me just incase. It is not really good sport for the hobby but it is a safety devise and there are other members that may need help as well, you never know.
Now where is that rolling road I made??
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Post by mutley on Apr 9, 2015 18:26:57 GMT
What is the H&S law for clubs that are limited companies with regards to people being on site alone either using the track or workshop?
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Post by andyhigham on Apr 9, 2015 19:51:56 GMT
I am a limited company, I always work alone
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Post by smallbrother on Apr 9, 2015 20:25:42 GMT
What is the H&S law for clubs that are limited companies with regards to people being on site alone either using the track or workshop? I don't think there will be such a law, limited company or not. The process for ensuring Health and Safety begins with an in-house Risk Assessment. Hazards are identified, evaluated in terms of likelihood and severity, and measures are put in place. If a club is happy for lone attendance, and has a procedure for ensuring the person's safety, then there is no reason to ban an individual visit. Common sense tells me that a lone person can do certain things very safely e.g. clean the club-house floor, and other things would be very hazardous e.g. working on a half-tonne loco repair. I don't see any more danger in driving a Simplex around a track than riding a push-bike on the road or up the mountain. Some hazards are easy to nullify, others are not. At the local club you need a team of elephants to move the traverser to gain access to the raised track. I certainly wouldn't do it alone and in fact have stopped going because of this feature. Other places have very easy facilities. There is no simple answer that fits all circumstances and the H and S profession would be very reluctant to prescribe one. Pete. |
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Post by alanstepney on Apr 10, 2015 14:34:53 GMT
What is the H&S law for clubs that are limited companies with regards to people being on site alone either using the track or workshop? I don't think there will be such a law, limited company or not. The process for ensuring Health and Safety begins with an in-house Risk Assessment. Hazards are identified, evaluated in terms of likelihood and severity, and measures are put in place. If a club is happy for lone attendance, and has a procedure for ensuring the person's safety, then there is no reason to ban an individual visit. Common sense tells me that a lone person can do certain things very safely e.g. clean the club-house floor, and other things would be very hazardous e.g. working on a half-tonne loco repair. I don't see any more danger in driving a Simplex around a track than riding a push-bike on the road or up the mountain. Some hazards are easy to nullify, others are not. At the local club you need a team of elephants to move the traverser to gain access to the raised track. I certainly wouldn't do it alone and in fact have stopped going because of this feature. Other places have very easy facilities. There is no simple answer that fits all circumstances and the H and S profession would be very reluctant to prescribe one. Pete. Thats an interesting concept. I wonder if all members share the elephants, or do all members have to have their own team? Humour aside, I do agree, in principal, that sole members can be quite safe and there is no reason why they shouldnt be allowed to attend on their own. Especially as most will probably be us older guys who learned common sense, when it was around. However, you WILL get the guy who switches on a lathe with the key in the chuck, or puts his hand on a running saw blade. or does something equally as daft. It happened in industry, and will happen today. Having someone else there to dish out bandages, tea and sympathy, or take the person home, or even, call an ambulance, is, IMHO, just common prudence. For that reason, I would advocate not allowing sole members to work machinery (even garden machinery if the club has it) unless someone else is on the premises. At a recent meeting of vintage radio people, one guy tripped over his own shoelaces. Hit his head on something hard, and had to be taken away in an ambulance. He was OK, but had he been alone, it might have been far more serious. |
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Post by springcrocus on Apr 10, 2015 22:30:06 GMT
.... Especially as most will probably be us older guys who learned common sense, when it was around. ..... I find it amazing that this particular quality seems in such short supply nowadays. But then, I'm just a cynical old bugger..... Steve |
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Post by Midland on Apr 13, 2015 14:13:53 GMT
.... Especially as most will probably be us older guys who learned common sense, when it was around. ..... I find it amazing that this particular quality seems in such short supply nowadays. But then, I'm just a cynical old bugger..... Steve On a serious note, I shared a classic sailboat with a friend and we went to classic rally in France. This absolutely gorgeous yacht came over the cill with us and later the owner walked down the pontoon with his right hand swathed in bandages, just a great big white blob. I said 'nice boat, what happened to the hand?'. He had been a shipwright all his life building classic yachts and did fantastic work. He said 'lost concentration for half a second and took my hand off in a circular saw'. I still shudder at the thought. He must have been around 65-70, a tough old chap. I always think of him when I use a machine and in particular my band saw which am now avoiding simply because the mind wanders occasionally. He added, did it a month ago, still hurts like hell!!!!!! David |
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Post by Rex Hanman on Apr 15, 2015 22:06:32 GMT
Had a colleague who failed to turn up for a meeting. Received a message to say he had had an accident with his circular saw. I rang him asap and was told he was moving it and dropped it on his foot! How we laughed! |
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Post by Midland on Apr 17, 2015 16:13:02 GMT
Hi All
Had a meeting yesterday with a security chap. He explained the difference between access control and security. It would appear that any kind of access control (card, fob, reader etc) would render the premises unsecure and would probably invalidate our insurance. I think he meant at a level that we could afford as the mechansim for full security would be pretty monsterous. So I think we are back to keys and ho=w many are going to get lost etc!!!!
Cheers David
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