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Post by suctionhose on Jul 29, 2021 4:03:15 GMT
I couldn't think of any NSWGR ones! Didn't you say you liked the 20 class for a model?
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Post by mugbuilder on Jul 29, 2021 23:35:30 GMT
I couldn't think of any NSWGR ones! Didn't you say you liked the 20 class for a model? I've always had a soft spot for the 20 class and considdered it before starting this one. I actually have a set of wheels for one if ever I get the inclination. Try to make the best of your forced isolation and finish that traction engine. Regards, Barry
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 10, 2021 4:33:26 GMT
I decided to start on the cab and complete the bunker. There is still quite a bit of detail work on the cab and bunker tank tops. I have included some removable sections of the cab back and bunker back to enable access for driving. I will add a plate onto the top of the bunker and fit a removable dummy coal load. The 13 class project was started last October and I expect to have it done in another 6 months or so. So far so good although lots of stuff-ups along the way..    |
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Post by David on Aug 11, 2021 10:49:47 GMT
I like the way you did the driver's side tank properly, that should make a big difference to how it looks.
Tearing along with it and it looks excellent!
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 18, 2021 1:16:00 GMT
I have been adding some detail to the tank tops and bunker. For a bit of a diversion I added a dummy coal load to the bunker. These things eat 10BA small head hex screws like they are going out of fashion. Thank heavens for Ben at E & J Winter for keeping a good stock of most things. I had a look at Ross's [Suctionhose] video and was blown away by the quality of his work. It makes me feel like throwing everything in the bin as it is all a bit agricultural by comparison. There are some b#**#*&#y clever people in this world.   |
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Post by racinjason on Aug 18, 2021 3:44:08 GMT
Barry,
Your work is every bit of the quality of Ross's I would love to produce work to your standard. when you throw it in the bin let me know I'll come around and carry it out for you... (to my car).
Cheers Jason.
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 19, 2021 0:52:08 GMT
Barry, Your work is every bit of the quality of Ross's I would love to produce work to your standard. when you throw it in the bin let me know I'll come around and carry it out for you... (to my car). Cheers Jason. G,Day Jason, Loco work is easy when compared to the complexity of a plowing engine. The brilliant engineering and quality of work that Ross has put into that machine is truly remarkable. The mechanism in that winding gear ,and the way that the cable is laid on the drum is just a bit to much to take in when compared to the relative simplicity of a model loco. Model locos can be greatly enhanced by adding dummy details but traction engines have to have all the parts working. I have known Ross for over 40 years and have seen his early work that was of a very high standard then, but has further developed into the quality that we see now.
As you know I have seen the work that you do with internal combustion engines and the ingenuity and finish that you achieved is beyond me. Credit where it is due. Regards , Barry
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Post by suctionhose on Aug 19, 2021 12:27:03 GMT
Thank you Barry. I know Jason was only having a joke.
It has never been a competition. Well, always trying to better but only competing against myself.
It always seems the best I can do is being done better by someone else. It's true of this hobby. There's continuous inspiration to do better next time.
I think the plough has been my best work to date. Not sure if or what I would do next. The commitment to better and more difficult each time is a bit destructive if taken too far.
I'm just extraordinarily grateful to have a creative outlet and to be in an environment that never lacks a new challenge. Started making an injector today...
Whatever people make, to whatever level of difficulty, if it's an honest effort, it just makes me happy when I see it.
Regards to all.
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 20, 2021 2:04:51 GMT
Thank you Barry. I know Jason was only having a joke. It has never been a competition. Well, always trying to better but only competing against myself. It always seems the best I can do is being done better by someone else. It's true of this hobby. There's continuous inspiration to do better next time. I think the plough has been my best work to date. Not sure if or what I would do next. The commitment to better and more difficult each time is a bit destructive if taken too far. I'm just extraordinarily grateful to have a creative outlet and to be in an environment that never lacks a new challenge. Started making an injector today... Whatever people make, to whatever level of difficulty, if it's an honest effort, it just makes me happy when I see it. Regards to all. Hi Ross and Jason, I agree that the best competition is one between oneself and aiming to be better next time.I am generally not in favor of organized competition as it can lead to favoritism and sometimes cheating. , As I have said 'credit where credit is due' and anyone who makes an effort to produce something from nothing is worthy of praise. Some of the work shown on this forum is absolutely beautiful, but the efforts of the beginner or person who hasn't the talent of some more experienced Model engineer is just as worthy of praise. I think that most of us are our own worst critic as we know where the faults are that are invisible to others. As you know there is always the bystander who will find fault with your best effort, but usually they are the ones that have never produced anything. I think that one of the appealing aspects of model steam engines of all sorts is that no matter how inaccurate the work is ,they will usually go.The near perfection that you, Jason and many of the other subscribers to this forum produce is really inspiring where as my claim to fame is the sheer volume of work produced. That has been mainly due to the necessity to eat and support my family. It has been mostly an interesting and enjoyable experience but has led to the production of the same thing over and over. All locos are basically the same, some have more wheels or more elaborate fittings or shape but nevertheless are basically similar. I just didn't know when to stop. I think though that this 13 class tank that I am currently building will be the last of a long line. I started out to make it as simple as possible just to keep myself occupied but keep finding extra bits to add on. It's all a bit rediculous really as it is only a slip eccentric engine but I cant help it.Regards, BarryPS. Sick to death of this Covid business as I don't have a lot of active years left and it will be around for a ling time.
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 28, 2021 1:04:28 GMT
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Post by suctionhose on Aug 28, 2021 2:02:40 GMT
The angles with 3 holes? Reckon they'd be a brace over the boiler or one each side bolted to the boiler...
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Post by matt2534 on Aug 28, 2021 3:54:41 GMT
I'm still trying to work this out so this might go twice
There are couple of photos in the Tender to Tank book of early round top boiler fitted conversions with a strap over the top as Ross suggested.
Matt L
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Post by matt2534 on Aug 28, 2021 3:59:21 GMT
You're not wrong about depleted stocks, this bloody lock down.
I don't think travelling to the steel store is a legitimate excuse to travel.
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 28, 2021 5:52:04 GMT
I'm still trying to work this out so this might go twice There are couple of photos in the Tender to Tank book of early round top boiler fitted conversions with a strap over the top as Ross suggested. Matt L I think that you and Ross may be right. It looks like there was possibly a brace fitted over the round top boiler engines but it was deleted when they were converted to Belpaires. There is also a short angle on the left tank top behind the water filler and one fuzzy photo shows something bolted to it but I don't know what. I also have a photo of one carrying a re-rail jack on the right hand running board. |
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Post by matt2534 on Aug 28, 2021 7:25:09 GMT
Actually walk past 1301 yesterday getting pics and measurements of 2510
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Post by mugbuilder on Aug 29, 2021 2:12:28 GMT
Actually walk past 1301 yesterday getting pics and measurements of 2510 Perhaps one day you could have a look on the top of the left hand tank and see if there is anything attached to the short angle behind the water filler please Matt. Regards, Barry
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Post by matt2534 on Aug 29, 2021 3:38:45 GMT
No problem
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Post by matt2534 on Aug 29, 2021 5:12:45 GMT
Barry,
Its a very agricultural add on I would say to support the blow down handle that comes up through the tank. Its partially welded and bolted, doesn't look original. It actually has notches in the handle to locate the bracket for open and closed. Perhaps when in use they had issues having to hold it open so they notched it with this extra bracket.
extra bracket to stay up and open.
Th actual hole (on an angle towards the actual blowdown) the handle goes down through the tanks is 6.5" from the tank side and 15" from the water filler center line and about 2" dia
The handle is only 4" by 3/4 fat bar on the end of the square bar rod to blowdown. Its secured to rod by nut and stands about 4" above the tank in the closed position. (the only thing I didn't measure)
If I knew how to post photo I'd would and scan the sketch I made.
Matt
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Post by matt2534 on Aug 29, 2021 9:36:01 GMT
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Post by pclass on Aug 30, 2021 7:31:37 GMT
Barry,You make it look so easy, I have always been in awe of your work, cheers dennis
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