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Post by dscott on May 26, 2020 0:06:51 GMT
They have used the bigger size heads so splashed out on another packet. My Cunning Plan is to Paint most of the frame as a flat pack then assemble and do a final bash over the bolts and nuts. One of my Hunslets has for ease a totally RED FRAME with bits like brackets in Black. Looks very nice and saves hours of masking round holes etc.
Tempting to go with 3 BA but now the rivets have been reduced we should be fine. Shame we cant leave it all polished! Saw a Rob Roy done like that once... Yes he was wearing white Museum Gloves!!! Hard work.
David and Lily.
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Post by dscott on May 30, 2020 3:19:27 GMT
ibb.co/Gkv0J52A wonderful moment when the top coat goes on during a lovely warm afternoon. Showing the drag beam and pump stay. the cut out is for the quick release pump holder. Just 2 easy to get to at the bottom 2 BA bolts and it slides down once the pipes have been disconnected. Now I have to organise where the pipes get easy to get at connectors. I have a new friend on Facebook who is also building a Jessie. An almost there model which is looking very nice. He has 2 additional pipes going to tees going to the tops of the axleboxes. Interesting idea. They are fed from the front Sandboxes. David and Lily.
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Post by dscott on May 30, 2020 3:35:45 GMT
ibb.co/MgFxMGsIkea is closed locally But I managed to secure this Flat Pack that allegedly makes up into a pair of bedside cabinets for Jessie to hold her valve bits. Using the tight fitting slot and glue method they assure that the various bits and pieces will be capable of holding up an early Mug of tea. I will be backing this method with lots of 4 BA screws again glued in place and flied flush. My ancient Japanese woodworking teacher would be proud of the way it holds together just slid at the moment! David and Lily.
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Post by dscott on May 30, 2020 3:47:24 GMT
ibb.co/GCF4hgLA late afternoon shot of the Jessie Bench with one of the Motion Brackets coming together nicely. You can never have too many big lumps of metal to help with holding things square while setting. I made a pair from what was left from carving out sandboxes. One of my cheap 123 blocks. Or 223 blocks more like behind the big one! The brass piece is for attaching the lubricator to the front Bufferbeam. I have never seen such a polished Axle Pump which is also superbly made. Six more bits to make and fit to the frames before they get painted with the very shiny Bufferbeam. 2 exhaust flange blocks. And 4 guard irons or Guard Rails which save so much damage if she jumps off the track mid flight! David and Lily.
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Post by ettingtonliam on May 30, 2020 6:18:00 GMT
ibb.co/Gkv0J52I have a new friend on Facebook who is also building a Jessie. An almost there model which is looking very nice. He has 2 additional pipes going to tees going to the tops of the axleboxes. Interesting idea. They are fed from the front Sandboxes. David and Lily. Why does he want to feed sand to his axleboxes?
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Post by phild1 on May 30, 2020 9:22:21 GMT
Haha, why indeed! The sand boxes that sit on the running boards hold oil. Dave, she is almost done. Just lining next and clear coat. Yours is looking great! A friend of mine is also finishing off a Jessie purchased from station road steam. When they are all done we will have to have a Jessie rally!
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Post by uuu on May 30, 2020 13:06:15 GMT
Your motion bracket looks like it will be good and strong.
Hurrah once more for the drawings, which allow you to visualise and fabricate a component that's quite complicated, and which most builders (me included) would opt for the casting.
Wilf
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Post by dscott on May 30, 2020 23:11:16 GMT
Indeed on my Gemma the Left hand sandbox lifts off and under is the lubricator!
The first bracket came together nicely today with an easy mix of Super steel and a gentle squeeze up to 2 1/4 inches wide. Held in the machine vice made it nice and square. After lunch in the garden the top piece was filed to a nice fit. The inner C shape also roughed with the file and another mix made. This time sat upside down so that several taps with the small hammer got it level. Then fed in the scrapings of glue which self level. Lovely round Casting like fillets made.
However once the dreaded spray paint goes on it all the rough bits will show themselves!!!
Yes I pondered the casting and indeed have one for the Simplex. (Fowler Complex) But experience of some Gunmetal castings beyond a simple BLOCK left me with hours of cleaning up. If I mess up one section of this I just go and make another one. In fact my collection of parallels grew and got polished while waiting on the bracket setting.
David and Lily.
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Post by dscott on May 31, 2020 0:10:33 GMT
ibb.co/kQm4qR1A shot from BC ? Before Christmas!! I did them all out of solid blocks as we are within walking distance of a Metal Stockist. Usual story of being too short to go on the Power Hacksaw!!! Chain drilling came to mind and it worked out well! ibb.co/p1w6jDbThe wrong date popped up part way through with this new camera. Must get out the instructions and ammend. David and Lily.
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Post by dscott on Jun 1, 2020 1:38:07 GMT
ibb.co/H2Z7YWdSo hard just to stick one together at a time but I wanted to have a kit of parts by the side. But worth it and it may inspire someone else to fabricate something they keep thinking about doing. I am still dreaming about a grit blaster... Or finding a place to put one. With the workshop extension comes a substantial overhang on the roof so such activities can take place. Very happy with the way it has turned out. Just needs some more sanding in the corners. David and Lily.
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Post by dscott on Jun 1, 2020 1:50:54 GMT
ibb.co/Zz5ZXSZThe bracket from the usual angle. Just getting enough light is often a problem. When it is Black it will be worse. ibb.co/wQ1GxXqAlso today I managed to fit the removable Pump body unit. In this case to remove the as fitted pump it needs a full take down before you can start as the Two 2 BA studs are fixed into the stay as well. This way just remove the bottom bolts and it slides down. David and Lily.
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Post by stevep on Jun 2, 2020 8:15:04 GMT
ibb.co/H2Z7YWdSo hard just to stick one together at a time but I wanted to have a kit of parts by the side. But worth it and it may inspire someone else to fabricate something they keep thinking about doing. I am still dreaming about a grit blaster... Or finding a place to put one. With the workshop extension comes a substantial overhang on the roof so such activities can take place. Very happy with the way it has turned out. Just needs some more sanding in the corners. David and Lily. Brilliant work David.
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Post by GWRdriver on Jun 2, 2020 13:47:20 GMT
So many wonderful Locomotive designs available to us and an inability to complete them because of bad drawings. Asia comes up as the worst so far. I just now saw this and I'm having mixed emotions about it. ASIA was high on my short-list of future project candidates, so on one hand I'm glad to be fore-warned, but on the other I'm not happy to hear it's one of the worst. I'm a great fan of Ken Swan, beginning with BRIDGET. As I recall he points out in his inaugural article in ME, BRIDGET evolved over a long period of time so by the time the design made it into print any drawing errors or inconsistencies had been eliminated.
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Post by Gary L on Jun 2, 2020 22:48:02 GMT
So many wonderful Locomotive designs available to us and an inability to complete them because of bad drawings. Asia comes up as the worst so far. I just now saw this and I'm having mixed emotions about it. ASIA was high on my short-list of future project candidates, so on one hand I'm glad to be fore-warned, but on the other I'm not happy to hear it's one of the worst. I'm a great fan of Ken Swan, beginning with BRIDGET. As I recall he points out in his inaugural article in ME, BRIDGET evolved over a long period of time so by the time the design made it into print any drawing errors or inconsistencies had been eliminated. I only found one in Bridget that I can remember, and that was the steam brake valve. I couldn't figure out how it was meant to work, and for me it didn't, but hardly a big thing. A far cry from other designers I could mention but won't... Gary
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Post by Gary L on Jun 2, 2020 22:49:11 GMT
So many wonderful Locomotive designs available to us and an inability to complete them because of bad drawings. Asia comes up as the worst so far. I just now saw this and I'm having mixed emotions about it. ASIA was high on my short-list of future project candidates, so on one hand I'm glad to be fore-warned, but on the other I'm not happy to hear it's one of the worst. I'm a great fan of Ken Swan, beginning with BRIDGET. As I recall he points out in his inaugural article in ME, BRIDGET evolved over a long period of time so by the time the design made it into print any drawing errors or inconsistencies had been eliminated. I only found one in Bridget that I can remember, and that was the steam brake valve. I couldn't figure out how it was meant to work, and for me it didn't, but hardly a big thing. A far cry from other designers I could mention but won't... He is sadly missed Gary
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Post by dscott on Jun 3, 2020 0:55:32 GMT
ASIA is in fact a superb locomotive if you look at the early version which I am working on also. Set of drawings on a NEW SHEET. My design ideas come from the professional painters of O and OO models and their hints upon. What you will have in front of you eventually is a set of bits that are superbly finished and painted and lined... The last thing you want to do is screw 6 countersunk screws into the outer frames and fill, sand and paint them!!!
On the original frame drawings she like the GWR River class is a double framed locomotive. (Also built by Sharp Stuart) Same wheels and another Gorgeous Locomotive. Pete Waterman has one in 5 inch gauge. And another in 10 mm to the foot scale. He sent me a photo of her in steam!
What she also needs is plenty of weight so the additional parts add to this nicely. I have sneaked in a middle stay 12mm thick and extended these frames up to become the inner splashers with the rear ones extending into the cab. The cab floor is one solid block like Rogers 1501. The rear buffer beam with a bar fixed upon just slots in and is screwed in place. Now with the cylinders in place. all the valve gear and crank axle running in 4 boxes you can get her to work on air and easily attend to any problems. Doug Hewson has perfected the new version of the valve gear of course. The front buffer beam is also attached easily. Then you slide the outer frames into three waiting blocks and secure with 3 bolts.
Joking aside I think he drew out the valve gear rods arrangement after a visit to Hampton Court Maze. The motion plate is on 3 different sheets and has odd holes added on each.
One laser cut motion bracket free to anyone who may want one?
The tender looks fine but is sadly lacking in any detail of just how it goes together! Again careful thought and it gets done as a shell. all the detail and a square bar riveted round the base. Into this the bottom sheet is screwed. 4 or 6 screws in blind bushes secures it in place having been painted and lined. The chassis has some very visible springs that forbid you from painting once fitted.
YES A Lovely Locomotive. Roughly 10 built as far as I have counted in 35 years. only 3 on Station Road Steams Archives! 2 finished!
David and Lily.
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Post by steamer5 on Jun 3, 2020 9:35:24 GMT
Hi David, We have an Asia in the display case at my club. First loco built by one of the founding members. I don't recall ever seeing it run, but by the time I joined the club she would of been some 30 years old!
Cheers Kerrin
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Post by GWRdriver on Jun 3, 2020 16:44:04 GMT
I first had my attention drawn to the Europa locomotives by friend in Wilsthire, whose good friend Tom Buckland (now deceased) had built one and which happened to be on loan when I visited. Tom's model won dishware of some kind a number of years ago and last I heard the model resides with the family. Tom made me a gift of his drawings (Reeves), a few works drawings, and his own construction notes & details. In our correspondence he never mentioned having a struggle with the drawings, but then my stated intent was to scale up and build in 7.5"ga, the only track facilities available to me, and use Tom's documents as references for re-engineering. So sorting out the errors would for the most part have been irrelevant. live.staticflickr.com/65535/49967553186_a041c0a5c2_m.jpg
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Post by dscott on Jun 4, 2020 4:36:40 GMT
Lovely photo Harry and thank you. I bought a part built Asia from someone and it had been beautifully made. Possibly by a retired toolmaker from the Midlands. Thoughts on me making a replacement crank as a pair of course (I intend on doing 2 having got another PART BUILT!!!) Not because of problems with it BUT far too wonderful to ever be hidden. Both are stopped at the same stage which has given rise to problems with the Drawings.
Someone has built one on Facebook which looks lovely from the drawings but says "That the eccentrics fowl the boiler!!" BUT it is a display model from wood!!!
Regards David and Lily.
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Post by GWRdriver on Jun 4, 2020 11:31:40 GMT
You're welcome David. Sorry for the small size, which I will try to correct. (I'm struggling a bit with settings on a new Flicker account.)
BTW, notice anything vaguely familiar about my avatar?
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