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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 19:24:30 GMT
Unable to locate any drawings on the internet .
Unfortunately the Greenly drawings for the Industrious loco only show the component parts and not the layout / assembly.
Any help would be very much appreciated
Thank you
William.
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Post by andyhigham on Sept 20, 2020 19:31:21 GMT
Look for the dockstader valve gear simulator and down load it. The valve gear is there in line form which can be adusted and animated
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Post by andyhigham on Sept 20, 2020 19:34:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2020 19:39:07 GMT
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Post by andyhigham on Sept 20, 2020 20:46:23 GMT
Do you not have access to a windows computer? a mac or linux system running a wine simulator will also work. You could install ubuntu linux to run from a usb stick and use the wine simulator. You would just need to change your boot priority to the usb stick
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Post by John Baguley on Sept 20, 2020 21:40:43 GMT
Hi William,
I've got this drawing for a 2½" Gauge version if it will help (assuming that it will be the same layout):
There may be something in one of Greenly's books as well. I'll have a look.
John
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Post by ettingtonliam on Sept 21, 2020 6:20:59 GMT
Do you not have access to a windows computer? a mac or linux system running a wine simulator will also work. You could install ubuntu linux to run from a usb stick and use the wine simulator. You would just need to change your boot priority to the usb stick Not trying to be rude, but I don't understand a word of tht advice. Does a wine simulator come in a bottle with a cork in it? |
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Post by ettingtonliam on Sept 21, 2020 6:30:05 GMT
Unable to locate any drawings on the internet . Unfortunately the Greenly drawings for the Industrious loco only show the component parts and not the layout / assembly. Any help would be very much appreciated Thank you William. I have a copy of 'Model Steam Locomotives' by Henry Greenly, in which he discusses Joy valve gear and Greenly's corrected motion for inside and outside cylinders at some length. I can scan it if for you if its of any interest. There is no specific mention of 'Industrious' |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 6:54:34 GMT
Ettingtonliam
Brilliant -many thanks for kind offer - accepted and PM sent
William
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 7:09:59 GMT
Hi William,
I've got this drawing for a 2½" Gauge version if it will help (assuming that it will be the same layout):
There may be something in one of Greenly's books as well. I'll have a look.
John
Thanks John
It looks as if it is a different layout in so much as there is provision for a driving arm on the centre wheel on the outside of the connecting rod.
I found a video on you tube demonstrating the valve gear on the Lynton and Barnstaple engine at Beer Heights Light Railway. This has the arm on the centre wheel that I think is what I need.
Greenly drawings only show parts and not layout and assembly.
Thanks
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Post by andyhigham on Sept 21, 2020 7:17:52 GMT
Do you not have access to a windows computer? a mac or linux system running a wine simulator will also work. You could install ubuntu linux to run from a usb stick and use the wine simulator. You would just need to change your boot priority to the usb stick Not trying to be rude, but I don't understand a word of tht advice. Does a wine simulator come in a bottle with a cork in it? It is a program that allows windows applications to run on a non windows computer |
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Post by John Baguley on Sept 21, 2020 10:03:59 GMT
Hi William,
Sorry, I'd forgotten that it was outside valve gear. The drawing I posted was for inside cylinders. I presume it looks something like this then? This is a 3D model of the valve gear for the L&B locos:
John
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 10:47:01 GMT
John
Many thanks and yes that is much more like it.
There are somethings called swing links which are approx 3 inches long and best described as a flat bar with a central hole and a hole each end and can see nothing similar ?
Also, there is no hole in the connecting rod for something to fit in as on the L and B picture.
I am struggling on this one to be honest and now thinking it is beyond me.
I can mail you pictures from the drawings if you have time to look?
Thanks
William
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Post by John Baguley on Sept 21, 2020 11:26:34 GMT
Hi William,
I've sent you a personal message with my email address.
The 'swinging link' basically takes the place of the connecting rod. One end will connect to the return crank on the driving wheel and the other end is supported by another link conected to the frame somewhere. The mid point is connecting to the vibrating lever that has the die blocks running in the slides.
This is a screen shot taken of the Dockstader software that Andy mentions:
This shows the end of the swinging Link connected to the end of the connecting rod but in your case it will be connected to the return crank (I think!)
John
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2020 15:14:38 GMT
All sorted
My sincere thanks to both Richard and John for resolving.
William.
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