Post by samesgonzo1 on May 21, 2024 16:38:04 GMT
The boiler in question is an LMS 8f in 3 1/2" gauge (Not to Martin Evans Euston design) The construction is copper plates and silver solder through out, No soft solder. The side stays of the firebox are 1/8" copper rivets with the heads on the inside of the firebox and silver soldered in place (not screwed and nutted) The boiler is approximately 40 years old and has been steamed almost every week.
The Problem: A row of stays approx. level with the firehole door have the heads erroded and some of the stays are now leaking. This bolier passed the hydraulic and steam tests at the appropriate time.
The required solution is to remove all rivet stays that are suspect and replace.
Please can the experience boiler makers / repairs in this group suggest a method to remove the existing stays and have you suscessfully used this method yourself or know of its use.
I do not think simply drilling them out from the outside and expecting the drill to follow the rivet shank and enter the inner firebox plates has any prospect of working.
I have considered the possibility of making a thin wall tubular cutter with a bore just over 1/8" so that it will follow the rivet shank stay and thus maintain alignment with the existing holes. An oversize stay could then be fitted.
I have access to a bridgeport vertical mill so could possibly use a slot drill type cutter. The the problem is setting up so the cutter follows exactly the existing stay rivet. Given this is a copper boiler it cannot be certain the existing stays are exactly perpendicular to the firebox outer wrapper.
Proven methods preffered but any sensible suggestions considered.
Thanks for your ideas
The Problem: A row of stays approx. level with the firehole door have the heads erroded and some of the stays are now leaking. This bolier passed the hydraulic and steam tests at the appropriate time.
The required solution is to remove all rivet stays that are suspect and replace.
Please can the experience boiler makers / repairs in this group suggest a method to remove the existing stays and have you suscessfully used this method yourself or know of its use.
I do not think simply drilling them out from the outside and expecting the drill to follow the rivet shank and enter the inner firebox plates has any prospect of working.
I have considered the possibility of making a thin wall tubular cutter with a bore just over 1/8" so that it will follow the rivet shank stay and thus maintain alignment with the existing holes. An oversize stay could then be fitted.
I have access to a bridgeport vertical mill so could possibly use a slot drill type cutter. The the problem is setting up so the cutter follows exactly the existing stay rivet. Given this is a copper boiler it cannot be certain the existing stays are exactly perpendicular to the firebox outer wrapper.
Proven methods preffered but any sensible suggestions considered.
Thanks for your ideas