Modelworks future loco wish list

[locoworksnorth]

Hello everyone,

About 18 months ago I subscribed to the British Steam Railways series of DVD's , and very interesting it's been so far. The thing is that I am now aware of far more loco's. Having been born after the curtain came down I never saw everyday steam workings and as a result was unaware of the huge verity of loco's and the different roles they played within the network.
So what about some discussion of future ideas for loco's ?

How about an A1 ?
How about an 8F ?
How about a merchant navy ?
A Princess ?

What about some slightly less heavy but still useful locos,

A Schools class ?
an 8k ?
a King George V ?

I just like the above locos from the video's..........

Locoworks

[pannierstan]

I would say

8F
A1
Spam Can (Merchant Navy)and
I think Princess' are beautiful looking locos aswell


Stan

[standardsteam]

A King?

A project that will only take place in my mind is to scratch build a Merchant Navy or BB/West country, as I couldn't afford a kit in 7 1/4 and if I did ever build one it would probably take the rest of my life and make the materials repayments smaller! A Princess (Coronation? - that was the Duchess, Jubilee Class I think it is) would be a great loco. I'd really like to see Modelworks do a smaller loco (but with more detail than perhaps a bagnall) to bridge the gap (although I suppose there have been the 14XX and the 57XX), I don't know what though. A B1? A Class 4? A Q1 or an austerity might make for a less detailed build, but I don't think they would have a wide enough audience for them.

[grahamodavies]

city of truro for me, classic beauty

Graham

[pannierstan]

Now theres a good one

WD Austerity....

Not sure myself about GWR stuff as I may be wrong but they seem to be favourite with scratch builders so Ive seen a few about like Castles and Manors.

Stan

[greasemonkey]

Hi All
Some of the models you mention above are available as castings although for models such as the WD you will have to search hard. For modelworks to get my money they need to do something new that hasnt been produced even as a set of castings.
Andy

[locoworksnorth]

Hi Andy,

So what would you suggest ?

Castings....... Which models are available and from where ?

Locoworks

[greasemonkey]

HI Locoworks
Umm were to start. My favorites have been done. Winson/Modelwork did the 9F and I am part way through building the Warrnet version that Winson copied. My farther owns the orginal Winson Brit that was built to sell the kits so no need for one of those. Clarkson did the WD 2-10-0 and I have one of those needing a rebuild. Reeves and Blackgates do castings for a B1, Duchess and King. I guess Don Youngs A3 could be made into an A1. I think Clarksons did a design for a schools and Keith Wilson descrbed Ariel a rebuilt Mechant Navy. An 8F would be nice as would a 76000 class standard 4. If they were to go smaller then a J94 Austerity in either original or later industrial form would be good. Going big again and havig a passion for small wheels Big Bertha the likey banker would be nice!
theres a start
Andy

[teakfreak]

LNER V2 Green Arrow, B17 "Footballer" and D49 (Walschaerts valve gear!) are rarely seen models, so how about these.

[grahamodavies]

I wouldn't mind them doing a Standard 4MT, or a 3MT

[Jason]

Just a quick question to everybody who has listed engines, I am curious to when you have listed the engines that you would like to see ModelWorks make whether you are just listing engines that you would like to own or if Modelwroks where to produce the model if you would actually purchase the engine from ModelWorks, and if not is it because of the lack of funds or because of the reputation they have got from Winson???

[grahamodavies]

Hi Jason,
If modelworks were to produce one of the loco's I nominated I'd definitely be interested. I don't have the ability to be able to build my own from scratch, so I have to look in the shop window to see what is available and make my choice based on that. Everyone has their favourites, so Modelworks would have to do some research to find a popular loco that hasn't been done already (the A3, A4, B1, Black 5, and 9F have been done to death in my opinion).

[mott]

Hi guys, Can anyone tell me when the 45XX kit was released by ModelWorks? Mott

[Phil Sutton]

Hi Mott,I don't think Modelworks produced the 4500,(I could be wrong here though)Winsons certainly did,or should I say they started,but only got about 4or 5 kits out before they went under.I can't remember wether MW finished the kits off or not,now but there were several problems with some parts,mainly down to Winsons usual lack of QC.
Are you coming to Mid Ex this year?
See you there Sun,

Phil

[mott]

Phil, thanks for that.I didn't know the 45 s we see around were of Winson origin. Yes we have a club trip coming over on the Sunday - see you then. Mott

[Phil Sutton]

ok,sorted ;D

Phil

[simonr]

ModelWorks are offering the sort of thing I would love to build - the Duchess for example - but I'm a beginner so it will remain a dream for now. At the same time, an 0-4-0 saddle tank isn't that exciting. I think ModelWorks would do well to include at least one model in their range that would be suitable for ambitious beginners, alongside their more complicated models. This would be something they are particularly well set up to do because they make kits.

I imagine that a good model would be: [1] simple, yet enough of a challenge to take one some way up the learning curve, [2] attractive and interesting enough to be worth building, [3] buildable in about a year perhaps, and [4] not too expensive.

I wonder if the earlier locomotives from before the First World War were simpler in construction and would make good prototypes for 'beginner' models. What about an LB&SCR A1 Terrier? Or one of Robinson's designs for the GCR, there are some fantastic drawings here:

www.railwayarchive.org.uk/map/trainPlansIndex.php

The Class 8F looks absolutely beautiful. Too big?

Simon

[greasemonkey]

Hi Simon
Then what you are looking for is a Polly!
www.pollymodelengineering.co.uk

Andy

[Deleted]

Older locomotives may be simpler and straightforward. A loco built in the 19th century would not have had the benefit of very sophisticated workshop machinery.

My favourites are the Highland Railway Jones Goods 4-6-0 built in 1894 or the Highland Railway Castle Class 4-6-0 built from 1901. Both had Allan straight link valve gear for simplicity of manufacture and were highly successful for both passenger and goods work. Post 1902 style painting would be easy in dark olive green livery no lining with the Castle names painted on the splasher in the classic Scottish (money saving) way.

The Castles benefited from the Drummond 8 wheel watercart tender which in 7&1/4 would easily carry a well fed driver.

Regards

Jim

[grahamodavies]

Simon r wrote:

ModelWorks are offering the sort of thing I would love to build - the Duchess for example - but I'm a beginner so it will remain a dream for now.

It doesn't have to remain a dream Simon, I bought a 4-6-2 in kit form, it's taken a while, and some help from these knowledgeable gentlemen on here, but I've managed to construct (if that is the right word) an air running chassis, and I am a complete novice. My biggest problem to date has been remembering the terminology for all the fiddly bits so I can beg for help and people would understand what I needed help with.