class 9 crosti boiler 2-10-0

[charles]

does any one know where i can find information on the crosti boiler class 9 locomotive numbers 9202 and 92029 ,,,, the thing is i fancy there is to many evening stars and black princes being built ,, i am mainly looking for research i have a 3.1/2 gauge 9f in the early stages and want to get away from the commonly built engines nothing against them but i fancy there is tooo many of them hence the crosti boiler class 9 would make an unusual engine on the track ,,, any help would be gratefully received from web site images of actual images that could be worked from
Charles

[alanstepney]

www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/francocrosti/francocrosti.htm
has some information and a phot near the bottom.

In "real life", the 9F's were a common sight, and the drivers liked the normal ones better than the F-C boilers.
None had names (except for Evening Star) and most were plain black coated liberally with dirt, coal dust, etc.

[chameleonrob]

just be aware that the the crosti boilered 9fs had smaller dia boilers than the normal ones so you'll need to adjust the boiler design to suit.

rob

[charles]

thanks gentlemen at the moment theres not a lot of information around in my neck of the woods so its a bit of a tos up which way i go thanks

[drumkilbo]

Charles,
There is an 8 page article about them in the July 2008 issue of 'Back Track'.
E-mail me if you need help sourcing it.
Cheers,
Ian.

[Nigel Bennett]

A Crosti 9F won't be unique in 3.1/2" G - I've seen one built by ? Ernie Grisham ?? I think he's from the North-East somewhere. I'll have a dive through some recent mags...

[mutley]

Hi Charles,
First of as Nigel mentioned above someone has previoulsy built a Crosti 9F in 3.5" gauge. It was exhibited at the Midlands show many years ago whilst still at Donnington. If he owner can be traced you might be able to source a lot of the info you need from them.

There are plenty of books around that cover the 9F including the Crosti version. Try getting hold of a copy of Locomotives in detail number 7 by David Clarke. It has a good scale line drawing of a Crosti in the back. Volume 4 of the RTCS series covers the 9fs and gives some dimensions for the preheater.

Alternatively a google image search for "crosti 9F" will give you a good selection of images.

Dont forget there where 250 9F's so you dont have to number your 92220 or 92203. Using a Chimney from a Brit you could model one of the original single chimney versions.

Andy

[charles]

hallo ian nigel andy
i thought about the single chimney 9f ,,, the only other one that was named is morning star....but my frames have been cut for 9f and i belive morning star had bogies
i have nothing against the others ,,,, would be nice to have something difrent from the usal run of the mill 9f ,,, which there are some fine examples i am in the first stages of an 9f build 3.5 cosmeticaly, changes can be made with the centre pre heater with the smoke stack to the rear
thank you gentlemen ,,, my e-mail is on site if any one can help,,,,,,ian ,,,, nigel ,,,,, i will be in touch as soon as the festivities are over ,, thank you for your help

[mutley]

Dont forget you will also have to change the expansion link brackets for the Crosti versin as well as the location of the front sandboxes.

Andy

[charles]

heck i hadent thought of that all i hav is one dark image to go on i made the standard 9f expansion brackets some time ago they are done in steel and put together with the mig looks like some bits will land up on e-bay ,,,,think i will require one of those books that you mention,,,,,just as well i havent got to far into the build i got sidetracked with the merchant navy bullied rebuilt in 2.5 gauge thanks for that andy,,,,,, me thinks i will haft to clean the rust of those frames to morrow and have a good look at the mongurel ,,,suffering with bad humidity at the moment in this country
charles

[simonwass]

Dec 30, 2008 17:04:58 GMT Nigel Bennett said:

A Crosti 9F won't be unique in 3.1/2" G - I've seen one built by ? Ernie Grisham ?? I think he's from the North-East somewhere. I'll have a dive through some recent mags...

Was in EIM, Apr '04; from the Colin Usher index;
Volume Issue Month Year Page Author Article Title
25 10 April 2004 312 Grinham Building a 3 1/2" Gauge BR Standard Class 9F 2-10-0 with a Crosti Boiler
Les Warnett was going to describe a Crosti boiler and feedwater heater for his 5" gauge design but I guess he forgot as it never apeared.

[Laurie_B]

The 3-1/2" gauge Crosti 9F was also exhibited at the Harrogate show in 2006,as in the photo.



Apologies for the poor quality of the photo-but it might be of interest.

[charles]

;D hallo Laurie
great picture worth a thousand words many thanks the enthusiasm is back and by the look of it not to many changes i will study that picture in full it looks quite magnificent and an interesting project thanks Laurie
Charles

[smokeyone]

The message might be a few months old but there is a chapter on the Crosti boiler in the Charles Fryer book "Experiments with Steam". Actually the front cover of the book has a picture of a crosti boilered 9F.

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Hello Chaps------------- and there is a brief view of a working Italian Crosti locomotive in one of the "Godfather" films----- and one of the trains in Von Ryan's Express is also a Crosti Loco... Whilst researching I came across this }---- www.internationalsteam.co.uk/trains/italy14.htm ------------- and also this }------ www.flickr.com/photos/64215236@N03/5856219657/in/set-72157627121917249 ------------------- hope you enjoyed that ??

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----------- slight problem with that second one...rty scrolling from the back to the front for the blue bar--- it'll work then...Now to gain my NERD-OF-THE-WEEK badge}-- did anyone spot a vital bit of kit missing from that 9F ??