Lisa
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Post by Lisa on Sept 18, 2017 8:47:17 GMT
Who knows I might still end up with a fancy if unusual watering can. At least you wouldn't have to worry about trackside fires Jim!
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Post by Jim on Sept 18, 2017 10:45:21 GMT
Goodonya Lisa you've just made me realise that if..as is usual my bright ideas turn to custard and the tender becomes a mobile sprinkler.. I would have the only loco permitted to run during a total fie ban. That would be a major plus.. I now feel much more positive. Jim
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Post by Lisa on Sept 18, 2017 11:01:37 GMT
Total fire ban days was something we came up against when running steam commercially, but as it turns out you can run a miniature loco during a total fire ban, in Queensland at least; it just takes a fully enclosed ashpan, an approved spark arrestor design (only one type is approved), and inspection by the fire service. A watering can tender would probably help as well though.
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barlowworks
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Post by barlowworks on Sept 18, 2017 16:02:47 GMT
Hi Jim
Have you considered how you are going to attach the ladder and still allow the panel to be removed. I was considering having a small piece attached to the back of the tender with a cut out in the panel to accommodate it. That way the ladder can remain attached and the panel is still removeable.
Mike
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Post by springcrocus on Sept 18, 2017 17:44:39 GMT
Hi Jim Have you considered how you are going to attach the ladder and still allow the panel to be removed. I was considering having a small piece attached to the back of the tender with a cut out in the panel to accommodate it. That way the ladder can remain attached and the panel is still removeable. Mike I thought that was why Jim had made an infill strip for the rear, so that the ladder could be permanently attached, but it seems I'm mistaken. You could always un-solder it, Jim, and solder a pair of lugs underneath the infill to support the platform instead. I wish I had thought of that earlier. Neater than my own solution. Regards, Steve
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Post by Jim on Sept 18, 2017 21:59:23 GMT
Well this is a bit of a giggle. Sorry Steve and Mike for misleading you both but I thought Steve's idea of a lift off ladder was a smart idea in that it let me remove the back deck easily at the end of a run. The fill in strip came about because I decided to use a nice flat sheet of brass I had the only problem being it wasn't quite long enough. I had an off cut of the steel from the tender that would have done the job but it wasn't quite flat. I'm thinking that at this stage I'll have the ladder fixed as per the prototype to deck with the two locating pins on the bottom end to locate in holes on the buffer beam angle. I realize that when off the tender the ladder will have to be treated with great care and kept out of harm's way for the sort time it's off. The current problem is finding a suitable method for preventing bits of coal etc dropping into the water tank through the circular cut out under the water dome. I think I have it nutted out so sorting it will be today's job. Kind regards Jim
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Post by steamer5 on Sept 19, 2017 4:11:52 GMT
Hi Jim, The tender is coming along nicely, a work of art in progress!
On the water dome hole, are you having the dome so that it drops into the hole or a small upstanding so it fits over it? OR do you have some very cunning plan that we will just have to wait & see?
Cheers Kerrin
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Post by Jim on Sept 19, 2017 5:35:32 GMT
Hi Kerrin, You Kiwis are quick off the mark I was just about to reveal my cunning plan when "ting" your post was there. Well here it is in the true tradition of coarse modelling...the only kind I know. The first photo shows the plate and containing ring sitting roughly in place underneath the rear deck of the tender. I would have had it assembled except for the fact that my soldering iron has died. The second photo shows what it will look like when finally assembled. The base plate supports the long valve stems and along with the circular wall will stop any foreign matter getting into the tank when the dome is off for driving. As an aside you can see that my friend Sod assisted in placing the valves equidistant from the sides of the circular opening in the deck. He's such a capable chap I've suggested he pop over to help Steve and Adam out and in the process get some overseas experience. He left last week in a crate marked 'Not to be opened in transit no matter what you hear coming from inside' In answer to Kerrin's query I'm leaning towards an upstanding ring for the dome to slip over to sit neatly on the deck. I think that's the easier and ultimately neater option. Now to go and get an new soldering iron. Jim
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Post by springcrocus on Sept 19, 2017 6:42:32 GMT
Hie Kerrin, You Kiwis are quick .. As an aside you can see that my friend Sod assisted in placing the valves equidistant from the sides of the circular opening in the deck. He's such a capable chap I've suggested he pop over to help Steve and Adam out and in the process get some overseas experience. He left last week in a crate marked 'Not to be opened in transit no matter what you hear coming from inside' Jim A strange box with "XXXX Premium" came to rest at my door but I thought, "Sod it, not for me" and sent it packing to somewhere in Sussex. Regards, Steve
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Post by Jim on Sept 19, 2017 8:14:23 GMT
Good move Steve,
I knew you'd spot my cunning ruse in putting him in a XXXX beer case. A sod of a thing to do I know but you have to do tough things in this hobby.
Jim.
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Post by Cro on Sept 19, 2017 8:15:51 GMT
Hie Kerrin, You Kiwis are quick .. As an aside you can see that my friend Sod assisted in placing the valves equidistant from the sides of the circular opening in the deck. He's such a capable chap I've suggested he pop over to help Steve and Adam out and in the process get some overseas experience. He left last week in a crate marked 'Not to be opened in transit no matter what you hear coming from inside' Jim A strange box with "XXXX Premium" came to rest at my door but I thought, "Sod it, not for me" and sent it packing to somewhere in Sussex. Regards, Steve Ahh crap....
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Post by Jim on Sept 19, 2017 13:16:32 GMT
Exactly what I said Adam when when young Sod arrived at my workshop for work experience.
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Post by Cro on Sept 19, 2017 13:23:23 GMT
Thankfully he hadn't landed in mine last night when I started 16 injector steam valves....Although the misses is round tonight, is that the same thing?
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barlowworks
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Post by barlowworks on Sept 19, 2017 13:49:41 GMT
You could get into so much trouble. 😉
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Post by Jim on Sept 19, 2017 23:08:20 GMT
You could get into so much trouble. 😉 Indeed you can and I have the scars to prove it too.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2017 7:18:15 GMT
The regular gathering of the Thursday Lunch Mob was as always, its usual light hearted affair with exaggerated tales of progress on our various projects. The group consists of seven of us all with a common interest in railways from OO to 5"G and full size, we've been meeting for about 7 years now. Anyway the point of all this that I returned home full of enthusiasm to do some more work on the tender's rear deck. The rivets are now in and a collar has been added to the edge of the water dome opening and will serve as a locating ring for the water dome to slide over when the loco is not being driven. I've sent off to Ben at E J Winter's for the 8 handrail stanchions plus some other bibs and bobs I need for the project. In the meantime the ladder and cover for the water filling point are still to be made and I need to trim the spindles on the injector water valves, can't have them sticking up like that. The photo shows the current state of progress, not a lot I know but at least things are going forwards...slowly. Cheers Jim
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Post by Cro on Sept 21, 2017 7:24:11 GMT
Jim,
It's getting there, very close now I can almost smell the paint cooking!
Adam
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Post by steamer5 on Sept 21, 2017 7:32:13 GMT
Hi Jim, Small steps forward are better than large ones back!
I hope that several ales were put to rest during the meeting!
Looking good!
Cheers Kerrin
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Post by jools on Sept 21, 2017 7:42:18 GMT
And the grey primer fairies have been busy again I see ! It does make a difference though, very nice.
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Post by Jim on Sept 21, 2017 8:39:45 GMT
Thanks Jools. For me a coat of grey primer brings everything together and at the same time shows up areas that will need more work such as the joint in the fill in strip. Well that's why I do it and I like the look of it, better than brass and solder. Jim
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