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Post by Jim on Sept 25, 2014 8:08:06 GMT
Julian, that chimney cap is a beautiful thing! Nicely done! I couldn't agree more Ben. It is indeed a lovely cap to crown an elegant chimney, locomotives of that period were works of art as well as being functional. Jim |
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Post by bhk on Sept 25, 2014 9:02:18 GMT
Looks great Julian, I machined the cap for my sweet William from solid copper too, I used a very fine emery paper with Brasso then a final polish with a soft cotton cloth and Brasso all in the lathe of course, really comes up beautiful. Can just be seen in this picture  Cheers Sean |
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Post by ejparrott on Sept 25, 2014 9:34:01 GMT
I do like that....I love seeing a bit of bling on a locomotive, so much so that perhaps one day I may build something suitable from the nineteenth century...not sure on region though...something a little simpler than my current project..it would have to be, I won't live forever...  great work Julian Pete Liverpool and Manchester....Lion!! |
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 25, 2014 11:12:54 GMT
many thanks guys for your very kind comments.
in due course the local scrapman will be pleased to receive the huge pile of copper swarf not shown in the above pic.
i have probably spent more time pouring over pictures and drawings of Stroudley chimneys than the time taken to make the cap! i then think it helps if you can draw the thing as you then appreciate the nuances of the subtle curves and proportions. i havent got it quite to my liking yet.
incidentally the commercial casting for the chimney sold by Reeves etc is a gunmetal casting so completely the wrong colour for the copper cap.
cheers,
julian
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 25, 2014 21:10:51 GMT
 here's the finished cap suitably polished and fitted to the top of the chimney. must say im quite pleased with the result, and many many thanks to jim scott for providing the copper blank and lots of help and pics and tips re making same. cheers, julian |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 21:17:23 GMT
Beautiful Julian!
Erm..... Beautiful chimney cap Julian, not beautiful Julian!!
Very nicely done, perfect miniature!
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 25, 2014 21:23:51 GMT
hi ben,
that's very kind of you! it's as close as i can get to the original copper cap as now fitted to Fenchurch, though poor old Stepney has a rather indifferent cap fitted at Eastleigh in 1960 which isnt anything like the original shape. so ive made mine as per the original shape rather than as currently fitted to Stepney for the past 54 years!
cheers,
julian
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Post by arch1947 on Sept 25, 2014 21:41:55 GMT
Looks great.
Arch
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Post by Jim on Sept 25, 2014 22:03:36 GMT
Superb Julian.  Jim |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 22:08:10 GMT
Ah! That's where you are wrong Julian, Stepney had a new chimney some time before it went black as the other one became... very similar to a colander and with some interesting cracks up it! You are thinking of the strange parallel one it had, that has been replaced now Before  After  Cheers Ben |
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 25, 2014 22:21:27 GMT
hi ben,
although Stepney's 1960 parallel barrel and base was replaced a few years ago by the very accurate chimney it now has, the indifferently shaped 1960 Eastleigh copper cap was retained, and is quite different in shape to the F.C. Hambleton owned original cap that Fenchurch now has! (originally off terrier 47 Cheapside withdrawn in 1951).
apologies, this is all a bit geeky to non LBSCR fans!
cheers,
julian
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 22:38:05 GMT
Fair enough, I stand corrected It's good being an LBSCR loon isn't it! |
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 25, 2014 22:41:57 GMT
here's Fenchurch's current chimney a 'recent' replacement plus original terrier copper cap fitted. note how the copper cap has a generous curve underneath the widest part of the cap unlike that still fitted to Stepney in Ben's pics since 1960. i understand it was condition of sale in 1960 to the Bluebell that Stepney had a replacement copper cap chimney fitted and Eastleigh 'bodged' the job! they made a much better job when restoring terrier Waddon for export to Canada a few years later and made a much better replica original chimney. incidentally the NRM have the 1947 drawings for when a new Stroudley chimney was made at Brighton for Boxhill when preserved. cheers, julian  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2014 23:54:45 GMT
Ah the little brown one, my favourite! Stick your P classes, give me Fenchurch any day! |
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Post by bhk on Sept 26, 2014 8:54:18 GMT
Looks great Julian, that copper really does polish up well, there is something quite satisfying about skinny parts!
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Post by Jim Scott on Sept 26, 2014 13:33:39 GMT
Ben/Julian
Please slow down a bit whilst I scribble all this into my notebook....
Jim S
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Post by jma1009 on Sept 30, 2014 22:26:34 GMT
a bit more progress - ive finished the chimney base as per the following 2 pics. there is a specially turned double taper sleeved portion that connects the barrel of the chimney to the base hidden of course in the pics, the sleeve being turned with a divergent OD taper to match the barrel (the barrel has a taper on it not easily seen in the pics), and a convergent taper to match the ID of the petticoat pipe and fill up part of the barrel internally. i always like to get the bases to domes and safety valve covers and chimney bases quite thin on the edges, plus a decent fit to what they sit upon. my digi camera battery was dead when tried this eve so the above pics were taken on my mobile. cheers, julian   |
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Post by Roger on Sept 30, 2014 22:54:06 GMT
Keeping those edges thin really does make it look more realistic, I'll pay attention to that and check the pictures of 1501 when I get to that point. That's a lovely job Julian.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 5:58:27 GMT
Love it!!
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Post by shooter on Oct 1, 2014 7:35:42 GMT
Lovely work Julian, always like to see a polished copper top. (nearly as bling as Doris)
She will be a special loco when you have finished her,
Cheers for now. Steve
ps May we see you at the Midland show. I will be there on the Sat. as away on holiday till Friday.?
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