LNWR 0-8-0 help?

[simonhudson]

Hi all,

I am trying to gather as much info as I cam regarding the Webb LNWR 0-8-0 locos. I intend building a 7 1/4'' A class, which is the 3 cylinder compound precursor to the later and better known super Ds. I understand that the Super D has many common parts and dimentionally is very similar. Anyone with anything that might be able to help would be very much appreciated.

Cheers All,

Simon

[chris vine]

Hi Simon,

There is an excellent book written by Edward Talbot called The London & North Western Railway, Eight-Coupled Goods Engines, ISBN 0954278704. There are lots of pictures and good ones of the backhead, taken straight on with the tender out of the way.

Nene Valley books seem to stock it.

Chris.

[Laurie_B]

Was this the class of loco you had in mind? www.lnwrs.org.uk/GoodsLocos/ex028P.php
You may already be aware that there is a series just started in Engineering in Miniature,building a 5" gauge 0-8-0 "D" Class.
The last few L&NWR 0-8-0's were based at Bescot shed in the West Midlands.They made regular appearances on the Castle Bromwich to Walsall line,through Sutton Park station where I remember seeing them in the early 'sixties.

[simonhudson]

Thanks both,

I have the Talbot Book Chris,.....Infact I phoned up the waterman Trust to see if I could get more info on the Super D as I think they are mechanically similar,....and I am pretty sure Pete Waterman himself wa on the other end of the phone. He told me he was having lunch at Christmas with Ed Talbot, and would ask him to give me a bell!
......And,....yep thats the very chappy,.....I saw a HO version running a few months ago,....and it looked great. It had the same kind of movement as a 9F, but without the big gap under the boiler and the 'too many wheels' thing! :-) I also fancy the compound thing. They had a valve on the smokebox so that you could just run off the 2 outside hight pressure cylinders for starting heavy trains,.....and then presumably there is just one soft chuff every revolution when running in Compound mode? All in all a very interesting loco to try to recreate.

Simon

[paul]

laurieb said:

The last few L&NWR 0-8-0's were based at Bescot shed in the West Midlands.They made regular appearances on the Castle Bromwich to Walsall line,through Sutton Park station where I remember seeing them in the early 'sixties.

Off topic: My old stomping ground (in the 70's though) - the old steam loco shed is still there at the back of Bescot's present day shed.

[Laurie_B]

paul said:

Off topic: My old stomping ground (in the 70's though) - the old steam loco shed is still there at the back of Bescot's present day shed.

Still off topic but Bescot shed in the early '60's wasn't exactly the most scenic of railway locations,I seem to remember!However it was fairly easy to 'shed-bash'
The last few G2A's there were quite distinctive looking,if not a little antiquated by that date.What stuck me was how basic the cab controls seemed to be.

Back on topic,I seem to think that these classes of locos had 'H' section spokes.I will be interested to see how these are modelled.Chris Rayward (aka 'Hotspur') did devise an method of replicating the 'H' section spokes for his 5" gauge 'Coal Tank' design.

[Laurie_B]

Having just been reading the latest article in the series 'Edwardian Elegance' in Model Engineer magazine,I notice that the author,Ron Isted,makes reference to a design by Martin Evans called "Crewe Alexandra" which would appear to have be based on one of the LNWR 0-8-0 designs.
There doesn't seem to be any mention of this design in suppliers' catalogues or the Model Engineer Plans List.I wonder what happened to this design.

[baggo]

Crewe Alexandra was described in ME vols 167 and 168 and was a 5" gauge version of the Class G1 0-8-0 coal engine. I can't find any reference to suppliers for castings etc. so perhaps the design was not taken up by anybody? Either that or it was dropped due to lack of support.

John

Apparently the plans were available from Highbury-Nexus or X-list plans but they stopped doing them.