springbok
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Building a Thompson Class B1 in 5"g Plus restoring a 3" Fowler steam road Engine "The Wanderer".
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Post by springbok on Mar 20, 2013 8:32:32 GMT
Hagley
The policeman who lived next door to them thought for years that they were 2 old ladies..
But I have to say he done a lot for ME at the time.
Bob
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Post by peterdebeus on Mar 20, 2013 12:44:13 GMT
dous anyone know someone that has a 5inch driving truck for sale? thanks  Peter |
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RLWP
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Post by RLWP on Mar 20, 2013 12:52:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2013 13:24:16 GMT
Hagley The policeman who lived next door to them thought for years that they were 2 old ladies.. But I have to say he done a lot for ME at the time. Bob ------------------------- it was his little jibes at}--- CAYENNE PEPPER I loved ;D ;D--------Just to keep "on thread", PETER you'll have to do a bit of historical reading in Model Engineer Magazine back numbers relating to the intellectual crossing of swords between our "Curly" Lawrence ie LBSC ( my second hero after Churchward) and a certain Mr. K. N. Harris... back in the 1950's --60's.... |
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jma1009
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Post by jma1009 on Mar 21, 2013 0:48:06 GMT
perhaps the wrong place to discuss LBSC's eccentricities,
but if you have a look at ME for 1922 and 1923 there are quite a few pics of him. i dont know when the oddness occured (not that i care a jot), but seems to be after his move to the USA.
i knew a few people who met him, and dear old LBSC was relatively restrained in disclosing his preferred attire in company, but the thing that struck everyone who met him whom i knew was his voice... which was 'squeaky' and high pitched. i wouldnt dare judge anyone by their voice or dress, and in these more enlightened times i hope no one cares. he was a great friend of 'uncle' Jim Crebbin of the SMEE who had a very senior position at the Bank of England, Sir Aubrey Brocklebank, director of the GWR, and Harold Holcroft (ex GWR, SECR and SR), and had such notables as C.B. Collett and Reggie Hanks visit his home. perhaps his most interesting friend was the late Dr J. Bradbury Winter.
the likes of Martin Evans in comparison seem pretty boring! indeed having met Martin i would agree! Don Young was a bit of a card and not everyone's cup of tea and his wife Barbara, who seemed to have quite a thing for me (always referred to me as that nice young man on the bike even after i'd got a car!), even more so!
my favourite story of Don was how he would rapidly draw on his cigarettes making the same sound a westinghouse pump made!
cheers,
julian
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Post by peterdebeus on Mar 21, 2013 14:56:21 GMT
I hope that someone can help me with the modifications that need to be done to make the 9F run like it should, something with the cylinders and pipework?? I would like to know the exact detail of this so i can check if this is already done with my model |
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leliev
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Post by leliev on Mar 25, 2013 21:16:10 GMT
Peter, we can make an appointment and if you come over to Barendrecht (my club) i can help you and lots of other craftsmen can possibly help you on your way.
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Post by peterdebeus on Apr 2, 2013 14:27:15 GMT
Who knows the code for the british railways green color?
I found out it is called BR Green but can not find a RAL code or something...
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wiltsrob
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Post by wiltsrob on Apr 2, 2013 19:32:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2013 20:11:17 GMT
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jma1009
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Post by jma1009 on Apr 2, 2013 23:02:01 GMT
hi peter,
BR green was 'Brunswick Green',
quite different from GWR 'Middle Chrome Green' which was in itself quite a strange colour and not what you would expect... i heard it once described as dark olive green mixed with brown (or 'mud'!). i had it on very good authority that BR green wasnt the same as GWR green. GWR green stayed the same colour from 1904 till 1948, but the varnish changed around 1928 altering the colour.
for an accurate match i suggest you contact pheonix paints via their website if you go for brunswick green. Humbrol gloss No.3 is definitely not BR brunswick green although Humbrol describe it as brunswick green. i suspect Humbrol No.3 is what's on your loco.
lining out is pretty much the same as the GWR livery, but there are a few bits that werent lined out in BR days.
however to the best of my knowledge (and i stand to be corrected here), the only 9F finished in BR brunswick green with full passenger loco lining out was EVENING STAR. the rest of the class all had plain black with no lining.
cheers,
julian
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Post by peterdebeus on Apr 3, 2013 11:17:26 GMT
So if I read the article in the post from Wiltsrob, it should be No. RAL6007 – ‘Bottle Green’ that is closest.... Problem is that the locomotive is in verry good condition and i would prefer only repainting the tender, but i think the collor used on the locomotive is much lighter than RAL 6007. www.stationroadsteam.co.uk/stock%20pages/5713/index.htm Think i will take some parts to a company to scan them in, and see what the exact mixture is. Only this will be quite expensive to do... Edit: the brunswick green enamel color looks about the same to me. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2013 12:00:36 GMT
------------- or do it in Black ??....A whole lot easier to do and maintain, IMHO ...I think there's something quite "rugged" and "workman-like"about a grubby 9F lifting a 1,000 ton coal train over Shap ----- OOoopppss, rose-tinted glasses again !! Sorry PETER, not helping you much am I ??....OK, how about using the BLACK PRINCE on the East Somerset Railway Railway as your prototype ??... Have a look at this}---- www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu9NcNmaNjQ ---------------- |
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Post by peterdebeus on Apr 3, 2013 12:07:11 GMT
I love it! and will get this thing working loaded trains over the little hills around our club track!
i was already thinking about make the whole lot black, like black prince was and like the rest of the 9F where, the evening star is a famous model ofcoars that was already done quite often... but at first it was nog realy the planning to re paint the complete engine....
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Post by peterdebeus on Apr 4, 2013 10:28:28 GMT
After taking the paint of the tender and cleaning the inside i tried if the hand pump in the tender was working.
At first all th fittings where leaking but its working verry well now.
I was wondering if its normal that it takes some effort to pull water trough the pump?
will this give any problems to get the injector working propperly?
I think all models with a pump will have this problem of do i have to modify something?
Thanks again
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 14:06:34 GMT
Hello PETER........the hand pump might be a bit dry because of standing empty for some time...If you can, remove the main ram and lubricate with a little graphite grease... then re-assemble..The action should be smooth, free and easy..Also,check that the 2 ball-valves are loose--and don't leak when seated.. The pump supplies water to the boiler and NOT the injectors which normally will have a separate water feed to them.
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Post by peterdebeus on Apr 4, 2013 17:57:01 GMT
im sorry, i think i was not realy clear....
I have already cleaned, an lubricated the pump, and made all the fittings with pfte tape.
So the pump is working verry smoothly, and deliveres nice pressure.
There is only one line from the tender to the locomotive, and one return line (for the axle pump by pass i think?? )
so the injector has to suck the water trough the pump.... and it takes some effort to do this....
Do you think this will give problems for the injector?
if try to suck water trough the pipe there is some water comming trough but it takes some effort....
thanks!
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uuu
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Post by uuu on Apr 4, 2013 18:15:29 GMT
I think you've answered your own question. A good injector will "lift" water and a lesser one will require a flow to get it going - but either way you don't want to make it any more hard than you have to. So a separate supply is desirable.
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Post by peterdebeus on Apr 4, 2013 18:21:11 GMT
Ok thank you.
I was not realy sure about how strong the vacuum from the injector is, as its my first steam engine that has one.
But i will make something to suply a free flow of water to the 2 injectors and the axle pump.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2013 18:56:57 GMT
Hi Peter I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but if you have two injectors and an axle pump then ideally I think you'll need 4 water lines from tender to loco. 1 for each of the injectors, 1 for the axle pump and of course the return for the axle pump too. Each injector should have it's own feed, or at least that's what I've been told. As always I stand to be corrected if wrong... regards Pete |
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