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Post by vulcanbomber on Feb 15, 2014 12:58:27 GMT
Yes maybe so but does she work a twin table vertical borer with a 9 ton weight limit per table and the potential of scrapping several hundred thousands of pounds of material?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2014 13:14:10 GMT
Er, I was actually referring to a Dog stud services.....( No I wasn't !!!!he-he...) but I did use "Bill" and "Ben", the twin vertical borers at Bridgnorth Works for those axleboxes mentioned a while back..... And yes, a few of us there who were 5" gauge builders DID make use of the available machinery after hours..... you'd be daft not to, eh ??.........Anyway, I'm glad that good progress is being made on the 9F...You'll find it'll pull more than you'd give it credit for...If you can then a little extra adhesive weight is all to the good (IMHO that is !!)........ Keep up the good work !!!
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Post by ejparrott on Feb 16, 2014 17:49:28 GMT
Oh Alan you do make me laugh sometimes!
I've seen Bill and Ben, not seen a lefthanded Webster before but it's nice to see, having operated a 60" manual Webster in the past.
Let's not start the Manual/CNC arguments again in this thread guys, David is more than capable of doing it the ol' fashioned way, but since the machine is avaliable to use, I don't begrudge him using it at all. It's a means to an end, and it works. This is Dave's first foray in to model engineering, coming from a background in Industrial machining, whereas I'm quite the opposite. There are times he comes up with plans and methods that make me think, but they work!
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Post by vulcanbomber on Feb 21, 2014 20:57:06 GMT
Er, I was actually referring to a Dog stud services.....( No I wasn't !!!!he-he...) but I did use "Bill" and "Ben", the twin vertical borers at Bridgnorth Works for those axleboxes mentioned a while back..... And yes, a few of us there who were 5" gauge builders DID make use of the available machinery after hours..... you'd be daft not to, eh ??.........Anyway, I'm glad that good progress is being made on the 9F...You'll find it'll pull more than you'd give it credit for...If you can then a little extra adhesive weight is all to the good (IMHO that is !!)........ Keep up the good work !!! Dont worry, i'm looking for as much adhesive weight as I can find. Hopefully my 9F will drag just about every bit of rolling stock in sight! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2014 21:38:18 GMT
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Post by jma1009 on Feb 21, 2014 22:00:39 GMT
Aahh but Lionel is also a very very good driver!
jim ewins built his 9F with as much adhesive weight as possible (5"g LODE STAR) and entered IMLEC repeatedly but never won, whereas Lionel has won many times!
cheers,
julian
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Post by vulcanbomber on May 22, 2014 20:56:11 GMT
Well, apparently I've not updated this thread for a huge amount of time.... I do have an excuse however! Having had our only working car written off in march i've been rather busy getting us a car on the road and sadly the baby 9F has had to wait. Anyway managed to find a few hours spare this week.... So to start with, having replaced all the brakes on our new car, I had some brake discs lying about so i've turned them to the correct thickness to make the Brake Blocks for the Engine and Tender...  And i've managed to make a start on my first Frame Stretcher, This being the stretcher that holds the front brake cylinder and shaft... this is an amalgamation of Les Warnetts design and my own ideas from the Works drawing. This still has a very long way to go. Ed was on hand with the other pair of hands in this pic.  And we're a bit snug on the room front..  And not a bit of CNC in sight!  Thats all for now though however. |
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Post by Doug on May 23, 2014 11:08:49 GMT
Well, apparently I've not updated this thread for a huge amount of time.... I do have an excuse however! Having had our only working car written off in march i've been rather busy getting us a car on the road and sadly the baby 9F has had to wait. Anyway managed to find a few hours spare this week.... So to start with, having replaced all the brakes on our new car, I had some brake discs lying about so i've turned them to the correct thickness to make the Brake Blocks for the Engine and Tender... And i've managed to make a start on my first Frame Stretcher, This being the stretcher that holds the front brake cylinder and shaft... this is an amalgamation of Les Warnetts design and my own ideas from the Works drawing. This still has a very long way to go. Ed was on hand with the other pair of hands in this pic. And we're a bit snug on the room front.. And not a bit of CNC in sight! Thats all for now though however. not too long till we see the frames i hope  cracking work i like the brake disc idea very nice move, the size of your loco you could use the disc as is!!! seriously tho is steel ok for blocks? i wondered why they are cast iron normally, are you having steel tyres on the wheels? all the best Doug |
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Post by ejparrott on May 23, 2014 11:10:36 GMT
Brake discs are cast iron not steel.
They will either be solid steel wheels or tyred.
We reckon there's enough material for a lifetimes running for engine and tender.....and I've another two 'scrap' brake discs at home!
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Post by vulcanbomber on May 23, 2014 17:51:25 GMT
As Ed's said, brake Discs are a good quality cast Iron. And it seemed a waste to scrap them.....
The wheels of the 9F will hopefully (if everything goes to plan) be turned and 3D milled in 2 ops on a Lathe with live tooling from solid steel billets... Thats a long way off however.
Dont worry Doug, I cant wait to see the frames as well but i've got loads to do before I even contemplate them properly..
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Post by ejparrott on May 24, 2014 8:54:40 GMT
finish this and then another 22 stretchers was it?
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Post by vulcanbomber on May 24, 2014 8:59:27 GMT
23... and i only have works drawings for 5 of them at the minute
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Post by stan on May 24, 2014 21:43:13 GMT
Hi
I am a new member and I am also building the 5" 9F there are so many mistakes on Les Warnett`s drawings I use them as a guide only.
Regards
Stan
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Post by vulcanbomber on May 25, 2014 20:22:57 GMT
How far you got Stan? A build thread of yours would be good to see.
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Post by jma1009 on May 25, 2014 21:06:28 GMT
i hope stan wont mind me pre-empting him and posting a pic of his superb 5"g 9F that he recently emailed me. cheers, julian  |
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Post by stan on May 25, 2014 21:40:08 GMT
A lot further than the photo Julian has posted, all the valve gear and cross heads are done smoke box door, all boiler fittings, super heaters and blast pipes, all the brake parts, grate and a poor ash box which I might do again. I am now working on the cab floor and making the damper pedestals fit this again is a poor drawing part which you have to modify. Maybe Julian will post some more photos I have sent him as I will have to learn how .
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Stan
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Post by vulcanbomber on May 25, 2014 21:47:26 GMT
I think it would be wise for you to start a New thread for yours.... I'd love to see it.
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Post by vulcanbomber on Jun 7, 2014 16:11:38 GMT
Well, i've managed to have a few hours at work this morning working on the 9F, so the brake cylinder stretcher i've been doing has progressed some more First bit was to mill 4 pockets in the right place with a decreasing size as the depth increased to create a corner radius of 6.75mm couldnt use a rad cutter because we didnt have one. I ment to take more photo's of this in progress but forgot.  . Next I milled out the pockets you'll see in the next pic.  And from this angle you'll see the radius's I created to start with.  This still has a long way to go. I have started drawing up the next stretcher as well but more on that when we get there. Thanks for looking. |
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Post by vulcanbomber on Jun 12, 2014 22:04:54 GMT
Amazingly i've found a bit more time this evening to do a bit more on the 9F, managed to get on the little Colchester Lathe and turn these:  (Sorry about the pic quality)  And putting the last chamfer on:  They are of course, the Steam brake Cylinders. These again, are an amalgamation of Les Warnett's thoughts and my own working from the works drawing and also having had a look see under 92212. These need some silver soldering and then the bores finishing at some point in the future. I also started turning some bits of material up for one of the next milling jobs, something Roger might be interested in seeing. Thanks for looking. |
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Post by vulcanbomber on Jul 23, 2014 21:52:14 GMT
At last i've managed to make some more progress on the 9F. I have finished all the "clever" stuff on the stretcher i've been working on. So stood up on its end...  I center drill some holes....  Mill a profile......  Re jiggle it to sit upside down, supported in the vice once again and mill the ends to the correct thickness, centre drill some more holes and then mill some pockets...  I ended up with these:   They just need deburing and the holes drilled through when i've decided on rivet size, I can do that on a pillar drill at any time however. I'm glad these are done, the good news is that I have got a spare one if anyone wants it? Next stretcher will be the one that holds the pony truck bolster. Hopefully the pace will pick up soon. |
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cracking work i like the brake disc idea very nice move, the size of your loco you could use the disc as is!!!
