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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2007 15:41:28 GMT
I am a member of Burton on Trent MES and own a 5" gauge pacific locomotive that I bought in 1964. The loco was probably built in the 1930s to a non-prototypical design. It has a long low bogie tender and the loco bears some resemblance to the GWR "Great Bear", but with outside Walshaerts valve gear. I always assumed it was a one off, but when trying to research the origin of the design, an acquaintance realised he had seen a very similar loco in Swindon and provided photos of it, including one published in the Model Engineer. The loco had a few detail differences but was clearly to the same design and I was able to correspond with the brother of the builder of that locomotive. Subsequently it was owned by a member of the Kinver MES and then apparently sold to someone in the Worcester area. I would like to try and contact the owner of the other locomotive to supply the history of it and perhaps operate the two locos on the same track. Can anyone help?
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John Lee
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Post by John Lee on Mar 4, 2007 20:00:21 GMT
So, have you tried applying coal and steaming it up?
This sounds rather rather like the the anally retentive who want to count rivets....
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Cecil Pagets 2-6-2 of 1908. Engine number 2299. Would make a fascinating model....
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Post by simonwass on Mar 4, 2007 21:36:11 GMT
He might simply want to know a little bit more about the engine......
Anally retentive sounds sounds a bit harsh harsh in reply to a first timer.
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Post by Lurkio on Mar 4, 2007 21:49:07 GMT
I agree Simon.
John, your reply seems inappropriate. What don't you like about Wilko's request?
Lurkio.
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Post by alanstepney on Mar 4, 2007 22:17:25 GMT
John,
Many people prefer to build or own, and like to see models, for example, on display rather than running them.
There is no right or wrong, it is a matter of choice.
Wilko, do you have a reference to the ME photo?
Or even approximate date it was published.
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Post by chameleonrob on Mar 5, 2007 8:35:42 GMT
can you post a photo of the loco, it might held to jog some memories. if you don't know how send me a personal message and I will post the pic, this loco has my intrigued now.
rob
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Post by Laurie_B on Mar 5, 2007 10:36:56 GMT
Hello Wilko and welcome to the mad house...er...I mean Model Engineering Clearing House!! Please don't be put off from joining in and posting here. Sounds a very interesting loco.If you could post a picture it certainly would help.It wouldn't be one of LBSC's locos would it?Possibly one that he may have built either for himself or someone else (the design not making it into the plans handbook),similar his Annabel and Duchess of Swindon locos that have recently featured in the ME press. Have you had a look in Brian Hollingsworth book on LBSC?If it is one of his locos there might be some clues in the book.I wonder if anyone at Kinver has any recollections of the loco? Btw,it looks like the Burton on Trent MES are slowly taking over here!  |
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Post by thefodenman on Mar 5, 2007 11:33:31 GMT
Hello Wilko, Since I know you and your engine well, I wish you good luck with your quest. However, I have to agree with other members I was quite astonished at the initial respose from another member of this forum, he must have had a bad day ( grumpy old men syndrom!!!)  . Very dissappointing and not representative of the bulk of responses, usually there's loads of useful help here. Andy . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2007 13:15:34 GMT
Thanks to all those who put their brains in gear and gave helpful replies. For those who did not I will be not wasting time and space here to trade insults. The main object is to try and find the other loco, although ideas on the origin of the design are of course wwelcome. Not yet cracked how to get a picture posted.
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Post by the_viffer on Mar 5, 2007 13:32:12 GMT
Hi Wilko
Welcome.
If you want to send the pictures to me at my user name, the_viffer , followed by @hotmail.com I'll make sure they get published.
One of the problems with the web is that we don't always get to see the twinkle in others eyes. And we all sometimes have off days.
For someone so young looking John knows some good stuff and is usually more polite than me (several posters wonder who if anyone could be ruder than me at my grumpiest!). Don't let one post prejudice you against him. Wait 'til you have several
Cheers!
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Post by the_viffer on Mar 5, 2007 14:31:10 GMT
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Post by John Lee on Mar 5, 2007 18:51:58 GMT
My apologies Wilko, my post was rather meant as a tease.. all forums have their tempo, and there was a rather recent debate on here about the relative merits of "superscale" and "runners" . I just forgot the Sorry if I caused offence. Regards John |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2007 13:24:26 GMT
John, Glad to see that tact and diplomacy are alive and well in the Model Engineering Clearing house after all.
So now that the viffer has been able to post the picture for me, does anyone recognise the twin to my locomotive, now believed to be in the Worcester area. For those interested a picture of the other engine was published in the 8 August 1957 edition of the Model Engineer on the Wolverhampton MES track. The only detail differnces I can detectare are cast GWR style cab-side number plates and feed water clacks at the front of the boiler. For some reason the ME describes it as a "French Pacific" although I know it was built in Swindon prior to 1935.
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