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Post by GWRdriver on Mar 10, 2007 0:50:54 GMT
I have just now acquired all the bits (less cylinders) for a 3.5"ga Stirling Single with drawings from Locomotive Design Co and castings by Dave Goodwin. Can anyone shed any light on this model, on Loco Design Co, or Dave Goodwin?
Both names are familiar to me, but I only recognize the names and know nothing about their designs or goods. The previous owner claims Rob Roy cylinders will substitute (that may or may not be the case) but in the end I'll probably fabricate so that's of little consequence.
Oddly enough, when I first entered the world of live steam, the Reeves 3.5"ga Stirling was what I decided to build, but the older club members quickly propagandized me into building in 7.5"ga, preferrably big, and preferrably American. In that time I've come to realize that was probably a very good thing because it would be quite some time before I possessed the tools or skills to have done even a passable job of it. This project will need to "normalize" under the bench for a while, but eventually . . . .
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Post by John Lee on Mar 10, 2007 7:19:02 GMT
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Post by Shawki Shlemon on Mar 10, 2007 9:54:25 GMT
I don't know about 3.5"G but I built two 5"G , one of which you can see on my website , the other is waiting for steam test ..one day!!! . It is a good steamer and runs very smooth and is also fast but is not a good hauler, plenty of power but short on traction .That is why they were called spinners . Now to the plans , they came from UK , I had no major problem with them .Certainly a nice engine to ply with . One must in this hobby follow his/her dream . Nothing is better than anything else .  |
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Post by ron on Mar 10, 2007 10:37:44 GMT
The castings I bought from Blackgates for Simplex all have Goodwin embossed on them, very good quality and nice to machine.
Ron
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Post by GWRdriver on Mar 10, 2007 14:33:54 GMT
Encouraging news, even if Blackgates doesn't have the missing cylinders. Thanks all, and yes it must always be accepted that a Single is more a poodle than a mastif, otherwise my next 7+ga loco would be a Lorna Doone.
And Shawki, very nice looking Single, and I also have drawings for ASIA and want to have a go at one, but in what scale I've not yet determined. It may have to be in Ga1.
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Post by John Lee on Mar 10, 2007 17:31:07 GMT
No it's not a poodle. The bogie Stirling Single must be one of the most elegant steam locomotives ever built. In 7 1/4 gauge it can't haul much even (My friend has one) but what the heck.
Lovely... about 5 miles from me, in the National Railway Museum, lives the original, albeit with the wrong tender
Regards,
John
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Post by GWRdriver on Mar 10, 2007 18:03:58 GMT
John,
My reference was of course to its relative hauling power and ability to do work beyond haul its driver, on a club track open day for instance, which it is not the point for me, but as you no doubt know for many people it is. The elegance of the design is not in question, it is its primary redeeming attribute, otherwise why would I have one? Certainly not to haul boatloads of kiddies on open day.
I am simply happy to have it and get done what I should have done years ago, and although I've sent an inquiry to Blackgates in the grand scheme of things the cylinders should be a piece of cake to fabricate. This may in fact be a blessing, depending upon what the drawings show, as it may be possible to add appendages to the assembly as needed to reduce work elsewhere.
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Post by ron on Mar 11, 2007 11:17:21 GMT
And here's the real thing in all it's glory last March  I'm going to York  in a couple of weeks time if anyone wants a picture of a particular part of it. Ron |
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Post by Myford Matt on Mar 11, 2007 11:32:41 GMT
Reeves' Princess of Wales is similarish and also a nice looking loco.
MM
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Post by GWRdriver on Mar 11, 2007 14:07:54 GMT
Ron, Thanks very much for the very kind offer, and if it's not too much bother . . . . .  |
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Post by John Lee on Mar 11, 2007 17:41:41 GMT
Unfortunately Ron, they have stuffed it since around the back, behind the "Flying Scotsman" exhibit, where the warehouse is.
Not sure why, they could lose a diesel and put it back in it's rightful place in the main hall for me; but there you are. Tricky to take photos now below footplate level.
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Post by Myford Matt on Mar 11, 2007 18:35:25 GMT
Hi JL
How's the Flying Scotsman coming along? I saw it just before Christmas and it looked like an ebay box of bits with a sign saying they'll run in 2007!
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Post by John Lee on Mar 11, 2007 18:58:40 GMT
Hi JL How's the Flying Scotsman coming along? I saw it just before Christmas and it looked like an ebay box of bits with a sign saying they'll run in 2007! Cheers MM Down on it's frames still Matt, as of today when we trotted off after daylight went for little loco running. 2007??. Hmmm they will be faster than me. No chance methinks for this summer. Still, it was a bit down on it's heels. I am sure the NRM will put it back to rights no matter how long it takes. My brother (sod him  ) got a footplate ride, squeezing through the tender coridoor in 2005 when it went London to York. Jealous am I . Luckily it spoilt his £500 suit ;D Regards, John |
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Post by Myford Matt on Mar 11, 2007 18:44:54 GMT
Armani-wearing MEs - shouldn't be allowed... ... serves him right. Oh all right I'm jealous too.  MM |
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Post by ron on Mar 12, 2007 10:53:42 GMT
Unfortunately Ron, they have stuffed it since around the back, behind the "Flying Scotsman" exhibit, where the warehouse is. Not sure why, they could lose a diesel and put it back in it's rightful place in the main hall for me; but there you are. Tricky to take photos now below footplate level. Regards, John Hi John, Unfortunately that's where it was when I was there in December, I was hoping it might have been moved out to a more accessible spot, well at least I can get Harry a picture of the top of the lum Here's what was on the turntable in December  £500 for a suit  the last suit I bought was £18 from Arco, cotton polyester in a tasteful shade of dark blue ;D Ron |
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Post by John Lee on Mar 12, 2007 19:03:21 GMT
Unfortunately Bro is a wbanker, the Yorkshire Bank sponsored that trip. As he is a big wig there (and does he need one!! ;D) he got the privelege. Ok top shots it is Ron for GWRdriver, although he does seem a bit of a renegade given his forum name. Seen the light at last I guess  Regards, John |
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Post by GWRdriver on Mar 12, 2007 21:57:16 GMT
Hah! I recall it was one of your lot who said "What's in a name?" I like most all of them John. |
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Post by Myford Matt on Mar 12, 2007 22:38:40 GMT
Come on Harry - don't let the LNER chaps push you around! Remember, your heart belongs to Dixie, er Swindon Must admit, it doesn't sound quite so good... MM |
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in a couple of weeks time if anyone wants a picture of a particular part of it.
) got a footplate ride, squeezing through the tender coridoor in 2005 when it went London to York. Jealous am I . Luckily it spoilt his £500 suit ;D
the last suit I bought was £18 from Arco, cotton polyester in a tasteful shade of dark blue ;D