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Post by Jim on Mar 28, 2014 20:40:33 GMT
Hi David,
Apart from the joys of 'O' gauge and the dream of the Bristol Bradford express racing along the mainline I'd be more than happy to save you a sea trip and pop the brake blocks in the mail to you.
Cheers Jim
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Post by Midland on Mar 28, 2014 21:56:39 GMT
Pete You will find O gauge very expensive. Suggest you join the O gauge guild for a few quid then go to the Guildfest in Telford in September I think and take your heart pills. You can get a nice loco for £2k and coaches are £150-£250. It is getting beyond a joke. I am lucky, I have our family railway from years before and when I die (from carrying 5" gauge) my wife will be rich!!
My suggestion is to stick with 5" and join Julian in the wagon building business. At an auction in Newbury a week or so ago, wagons not as good as Julian's were selling for over £600 ea so a batch of 7 plankers, say a batch of 30, would if you trickled them out enhance your pension!!
Garry, great website. I love these obscure joint railways! Did you know that the Great Eastern ran into St Pancras for a while. My father told me a lovely story about when he was a student in Manchester. He had digs in Todmondon and caught a local train home each night. Standing on the station one night a Compound chugged in with a few Midland coaches then a G&SWR, a GE through to Liverpool, a GWR from the south to Aberdeen, a LSWR for Leeds and then a North Stafford for Carlisle etc and when this train had left he realised it was his train home. I have told this a number of times and always get it wrong but the thing is there was a great variety of through coaches from everywhere to everywhere and that is the true beauty. My 'O' gauge is the L&Y, Midland, Great Eastern Joint with connections to the South Coast. License for anything! I have an O gauge Aspinal so back tgo the real thing!! Enough of this chatter.
Cheers david
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Post by Midland on Mar 28, 2014 22:01:07 GMT
Jim I am ably looked after by Malcolm who will make them from his laser machine so many thanks for your kind offer. However if you ever visit the Goyder Line in Oz, you may touch the hem of my coat for that is my Goyder ancester! Cheers David
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 22:11:06 GMT
Pete You will find O gauge very expensive. Suggest you join the O gauge guild for a few quid then go to the Guildfest in Telford in September I think and take your heart pills. You can get a nice loco for £2k and coaches are £150-£250. It is getting beyond a joke. I am lucky, I have our family railway from years before and when I die (from carrying 5" gauge) my wife will be rich!! Cheers david ahh but I'm well aware of the costs, the Martin Finney kit with the extra's I've bought has cost close to 1k... mind you I bought this when I was still working when money wasn't a problem, how things have changed. I have built two of Jim's (Connoisseur) kits and also had a play with Templot and a C&L turnout kit. The good thing about it is there's no rush and I'll just build bits and pieces when I fancy some relaxing builds. I do belong to the 0 gauge guild and did go to Kettering a few years back although nowhere else since, I must do another event soon but will need to save up first, you can't go to these events without spending money, or at least I can't... Pete
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Post by Jim on Mar 30, 2014 4:59:46 GMT
Slater's Plasticard do some nice loco and wagon kits and their 5"G wheels look interesting for scale wagons even if they are steel tyred on plastic centres.
Just a thought.
Jim (who has crossed the Goyder Line in SA and lived to tell the tale.)
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Post by Midland on Jun 1, 2016 19:48:28 GMT
This is really for Ed as much as anyone else. Had a chat with Bob Lumb of the West Riding Soc at Doncaster about the bloody spring hangers and his comment (having almost completed an Aspinal) was that you can hardly see them so while I wait for a milling cutter for the PoW job I have now finished five of the little darlings. His hangers were so covered in paint that any of the blemishes that I was worrying about simply disappeared. So full steam ahead might get it done this century. Cheers David
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Post by Midland on Sept 5, 2016 9:34:39 GMT
Well, back on the job here. Seen some lovely examples at Doncaster and the Bristol show so heads down and get on with it!! D
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Post by Midland on Oct 25, 2016 11:03:54 GMT
One of the tasks I missed many years ago when I started the tender frames was to drill the holes across the top that hold the tank support. "These are 40 HOLES No 41". This seems and odd size to me as the BA 8 is a clearance at 43 and 41 does not fit a 1/16ths dimesnion. Any one got an idea what goes through these please? Cheers david Tender frame 1 by David Goyder, on Flickr
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Post by thumpersdad on Oct 25, 2016 11:12:44 GMT
I think these are 8BA clearance. Don Young typically specifies a drill that is a couple of sizes smaller than is usual: eg no 41 for 8BA and no 34 for 6BA. I don't know why that is unless he wanted a more cosy fit. Both should still clear the thread OD.
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Post by mbrown on Oct 25, 2016 17:42:37 GMT
Surely that's a rattling good clearance for 8BA? LBSC used to specify no.40 as clearance size for 7BA back in the 1930s.
Did Don intend them to be clearance holes for 3/32" studs with 7BA threads, perhaps?
Just guessing...
Malcolm
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 19:05:06 GMT
Hi David
I had a quick look at what Don had done on Doncaster, I think he used No.41 for clearance with 7BA bolts, he's also used it for rivets but these seem fairly large for the role that you are talking about here.
Pete
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Post by Midland on Oct 26, 2016 15:38:31 GMT
All very interesting, will experiment and report!! D
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Post by kipford on Oct 26, 2016 20:46:14 GMT
David Have you seen Reeves are selling off all their boiler flanging plates. The Aspinall ones are for sale at £120. Cannot decide if they are worth buying or stick to making my own?
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Post by Midland on Oct 30, 2016 18:49:30 GMT
David Have you seen Reeves are selling off all their boiler flanging plates. The Aspinall ones are for sale at £120. Cannot decide if they are worth buying or stick to making my own? Too old and lazy for that. I will have someone make a boiler for me. If I did it, it would not work for sure!!! D
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Post by Midland on Oct 30, 2016 19:28:34 GMT
Hi David I had a quick look at what Don had done on Doncaster, I think he used No.41 for clearance with 7BA bolts, he's also used it for rivets but these seem fairly large for the role that you are talking about here. Pete Hi Pete It is I who is a bit of a plonker. A 41 drill is bigger than a 43 of course so the hole is a little bigger. This allows a little flexibility in fixing the tender body to the frame. So I have drilled upmteen No 41 holes today after 8 days without getting to the Workshop. Also undercoated much of the tender, I will finish the bloody thing this side of Christmas. BTW, I blame all the confusion about drills and holes on Roger and his wretched metric system. It is so simple when the hole gets bigger when the number gets smaller. Same with £ s p. And we used to measure in rods, perches, poles and chains, now it is bloody metres which isn't even the same as a yard. Thank god for Brexit we can get back to normal and Roger can convert all his milli this and miili that to 64ths or even 128ths!!!! If he is a very good chap, we can let him use thousands after a probationary period!! Cheers David
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2016 19:51:08 GMT
haha.....It's ok David, you're not alone in metric vs imperial or even number sizes....I guess I'm in the lucky group having first learnt imperial but then learnt metric as we converted to decimal back in the early 70's. I was very young still so picked up both fairly easily. Funny thing is although I convert to metric for getting a visual idea on a given small size I use imperial for larger sizes when talking in feet....perhaps I'm just a bit weird... Pete
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Post by joanlluch on Oct 30, 2016 20:57:45 GMT
Wow David. Some day, a time will arrive that nobody will use imperial anymore and you will have to learn metric. However, you will be lucky to never have to learn a foreign language. Do you guess what's easier?
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Post by Midland on Oct 30, 2016 21:28:19 GMT
Wow David. Some day, a time will arrive that nobody will use imperial anymore and you will have to learn metric. However, you will be lucky to never have to learn a foreign language. Do you guess what's easier? Lucky to have grown up in Quebec so know French (Canadian) and do a bit of Italian. Also conversant in American at least in the northern part, but do love rods and perches and pounds shillings and pence!!Cheers D PS Spanish has too many sspphhsssers I think for a J as in Jinty Tank engines!!
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Post by Midland on Oct 30, 2016 21:35:17 GMT
haha.....It's ok David, you're not alone in metric vs imperial or even number sizes....I guess I'm in the lucky group having first learnt imperial but then learnt metric as we converted to decimal back in the early 70's. I was very young still so picked up both fairly easily. Funny thing is although I convert to metric for getting a visual idea on a given small size I use imperial for larger sizes when talking in feet....perhaps I'm just a bit weird... Pete Pete Just winding up the Roger. Bought a sheet of ply yesterday, 4 by 8 and ten mil thick, who is thick? Must get head down and do some metal bashing, too much time running a club and all that. Bless old 'Simpleloco' he put me onto the primer and it is a great catharthis (spelling), just priming a bit of work completes it. In my case a tender startered twenty years agol! Cheers D
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Post by joanlluch on Oct 30, 2016 22:45:30 GMT
PS Spanish has too many sspphhsssers I think for a J as in Jinty Tank engines!! Hi Pete, I am fluent in written English, spoken French and written and spoken Spanish, but none of them are my first language, which of course is Catalan.
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